Author Topic: Apple Quicktime player sucks! (Read 804 times)

Zombie9920 · « **on:** 31 March 2002, 01:32 »

There is no excuse for this. Look at the CPU and memory usage difference between Quicktime and Windows Media Player 8 playing the very same video clip.

Quicktime

Windows Media Player

I'll also add that Windows Media Player has better video image quality(especially in full screen) plus I like how WMP has the slide off screen controls in full screen(to reduce the clutter in your viewing area).

[ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

psyjax · « **Reply #1 on:** 31 March 2002, 01:53 »

Maybe on a PC, but on a Mac the results are clearly oposite. Nothing changes that fact that WMP is total spyware and its proprietary streaming format sux ass compared to QT and RM.

Image quality on QT is way better than WMP (high quality stream and a fast conection of course

), reqular fully d-loaded movies don't chop up like they tend to on WMP.

Whatever...

Anyway, If your trying to piss people off by posting big images ok, but if you actully want to encurage debate and the like, please just add a reqular link to your post so we can d-load the images at our lesure. Thanx.

Zombie9920 · « **Reply #2 on:** 31 March 2002, 01:58 »

Ummm, 96k images aren't large. If I wanted to piss people off I would post bitmaps d00d.

If it is the opposite for a Mac then explain why when you have a few videos open at the same time on a Mac the system slows down to a crawl whereas on a PC you can have tons of different video windows open and the PC still performs at full speed.

Windows Media format is a hell of alot better than Real format. Real video looks like shit and the audio in real video/real audio clips sound like shit. QT format isn't much better.

[ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

psyjax · « **Reply #3 on:** 31 March 2002, 03:06 »

Tried it. Opend 6 .mpg files avaraging around 2MB each under OSX 10.1.3, while it didn't play all the sounds simultaneously (that is the sound only played on the window which was active), all movies continued playing without droping a frame. System lag was nil outside of QT, and no serious slowdown occured. Now, in OS 9, that would be a diffrent story of course

.

Zombie9920 · « **Reply #4 on:** 31 March 2002, 03:10 »

I was referring to OS9 because I haven't really had a chance to play around with X yet. I forgot that X has better multi-tasking support so you are probably right on that count. I still think that Real format and QT format sucks....BTW, I'm not big on WMP format either. I like my Mpegs and MP3s. ;P

The point of this post was to show how lousy Apple codes thier software.

psyjax · « **Reply #5 on:** 31 March 2002, 03:15 »

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie9920:
The point of this post was to show how lousy Apple codes thier software.

Well I dunno. WMP on a Mac tend's to crash and have horrible playback, It may be great on a PC. But then again they are both running in their native environments. So if PC QT is shoddy programming, then M$ didn't do much beter with WMP for the Mac.

cahult · « **Reply #6 on:** 31 March 2002, 22:43 »

Well, Apple is doing to windows what M

cahult · « **Reply #7 on:** 31 March 2002, 22:48 »

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie9920:
There is no excuse for this. Look at the CPU and memory usage difference between Quicktime and Windows Media Player 8 playing the very same video clip.

I'll also add that Windows Media Player has better video image quality(especially in full screen) plus I like how WMP has the slide off screen controls in full screen(to reduce the clutter in your viewing area).

[ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

Where can I find the time on WMP? Couldn

Gooseberry Clock · « **Reply #8 on:** 31 March 2002, 18:16 »

If I wanted to put a video clip on my site, what format should I use?

QuickTime
RealPlayer
Windows Media Player

All three formats play on both Windows and Mac.

psyjax · « **Reply #9 on:** 1 April 2002, 04:27 »

I would go with QT, it's easy to make video for and everyone has the QT plug in. WMP is shit on Mac's and other systems cuz you have to boot in to the whole overbloated application, and as I said before, despite problems QT may have on other platforms WMP sux generaly.

RealMedia is cool and portable too, but the problem is that .rm's generaly suck ass and their player is probably more unmanagable than WMP's. Your choice, id go with QT. You don't have to make 'em .mov files for them to play thrugh QT you can have .mpg's and stuff, I dunno, I like it the best.

Calum · « **Reply #10 on:** 1 April 2002, 14:17 »

this is fucked! this page is full of fucking pictures that
mean you have to scroll left and right all the time just to
read the posts unless the writer thoughtfully puts carriage
returns in at the end of every line. What is this obsession with
putting shitey big pictures on the forums anyway?
Forums are for talking, not showing off yr screenshot program!

The fact that clock is planning to cludge up the forums with
videos is fucking bullshit. I am against banning clock, as i
say in another post, but i think the line should be drawn when
it comes to posting big or irritating graphics, and the poster
should just put a link to the page, video or image concerned
so as not to waste people's time or effort.
No offence clock or zombie, but isn't this sensible?

Also, Apple have little incentive to best windows media player
on performance within windows. have you checked out the difference
using macOS? (you might have but i didn't read all of this
forum due to being fed up with scrolling left and right all the
time)

psyjax · « **Reply #11 on:** 1 April 2002, 22:11 »

Ya... hey cahult, could you do us a favor and edit your post so you remove the links from the quote from Zombi6498498797?

That would help alot.

I asked Zombie

Master of Reality · « **Reply #12 on:** 1 April 2002, 22:53 »

quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
Ya... hey cahult, could you do us a favor and edit your post so you remove the links from the quote from Zombi6498498797?

That would help alot.

I asked Zombie

psyjax · « **Reply #13 on:** 1 April 2002, 22:58 »

Same here, but I think common curtesey is called for outside the privaleged few like ourselves

.

Besides, having to scroll right sux.

Zombie9920 · « **Reply #14 on:** 1 April 2002, 23:38 »

I love pissing you people off.

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Image quality on QT is way better than WMP (high quality stream and a fast conection of course ), reqular fully d-loaded movies don't chop up like they tend to on WMP. Whatever... Anyway, If your trying to piss people off by posting big images ok, but if you actully want to encurage debate and the like, please just add a reqular link to your post so we can d-load the images at our lesure. Thanx. Logged Psyjax! I RULEZZZZ!!! HAR HAR HAR Zombie9920 Member Posts: 1,309 Kudos: 33 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #2 on: 31 March 2002, 01:58 » Ummm, 96k images aren't large. If I wanted to piss people off I would post bitmaps d00d. If it is the opposite for a Mac then explain why when you have a few videos open at the same time on a Mac the system slows down to a crawl whereas on a PC you can have tons of different video windows open and the PC still performs at full speed. Windows Media format is a hell of alot better than Real format. Real video looks like shit and the audio in real video/real audio clips sound like shit. QT format isn't much better. [ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ] Logged psyjax VIP Posts: 1,871 Kudos: 55 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #3 on: 31 March 2002, 03:06 » Tried it. Opend 6 .mpg files avaraging around 2MB each under OSX 10.1.3, while it didn't play all the sounds simultaneously (that is the sound only played on the window which was active), all movies continued playing without droping a frame. System lag was nil outside of QT, and no serious slowdown occured. Now, in OS 9, that would be a diffrent story of course . Logged Psyjax! I RULEZZZZ!!! HAR HAR HAR Zombie9920 Member Posts: 1,309 Kudos: 33 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #4 on: 31 March 2002, 03:10 » I was referring to OS9 because I haven't really had a chance to play around with X yet. I forgot that X has better multi-tasking support so you are probably right on that count. I still think that Real format and QT format sucks....BTW, I'm not big on WMP format either. I like my Mpegs and MP3s. ;P The point of this post was to show how lousy Apple codes thier software. Logged psyjax VIP Posts: 1,871 Kudos: 55 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #5 on: 31 March 2002, 03:15 » quote: Originally posted by Zombie9920: The point of this post was to show how lousy Apple codes thier software. Well I dunno. WMP on a Mac tend's to crash and have horrible playback, It may be great on a PC. But then again they are both running in their native environments. So if PC QT is shoddy programming, then M$ didn't do much beter with WMP for the Mac. Logged Psyjax! I RULEZZZZ!!! HAR HAR HAR cahult VIP Posts: 1,186 Kudos: 182 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #6 on: 31 March 2002, 22:43 » Well, Apple is doing to windows what M Logged "The gentleman is dead, the feminists killed him" Anonymous cahult VIP Posts: 1,186 Kudos: 182 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #7 on: 31 March 2002, 22:48 » quote: Originally posted by Zombie9920: There is no excuse for this. Look at the CPU and memory usage difference between Quicktime and Windows Media Player 8 playing the very same video clip. I'll also add that Windows Media Player has better video image quality(especially in full screen) plus I like how WMP has the slide off screen controls in full screen(to reduce the clutter in your viewing area). [ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ] Where can I find the time on WMP? Couldn Logged "The gentleman is dead, the feminists killed him" Anonymous Gooseberry Clock Member Posts: 419 Kudos: 0 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #8 on: 31 March 2002, 18:16 » If I wanted to put a video clip on my site, what format should I use? QuickTime RealPlayer Windows Media Player All three formats play on both Windows and Mac. Logged psyjax VIP Posts: 1,871 Kudos: 55 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #9 on: 1 April 2002, 04:27 » I would go with QT, it's easy to make video for and everyone has the QT plug in. WMP is shit on Mac's and other systems cuz you have to boot in to the whole overbloated application, and as I said before, despite problems QT may have on other platforms WMP sux generaly. RealMedia is cool and portable too, but the problem is that .rm's generaly suck ass and their player is probably more unmanagable than WMP's. Your choice, id go with QT. You don't have to make 'em .mov files for them to play thrugh QT you can have .mpg's and stuff, I dunno, I like it the best. Logged Psyjax! I RULEZZZZ!!! HAR HAR HAR Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #10 on: 1 April 2002, 14:17 » this is fucked! this page is full of fucking pictures that mean you have to scroll left and right all the time just to read the posts unless the writer thoughtfully puts carriage returns in at the end of every line. What is this obsession with putting shitey big pictures on the forums anyway? Forums are for talking, not showing off yr screenshot program! The fact that clock is planning to cludge up the forums with videos is fucking bullshit. I am against banning clock, as i say in another post, but i think the line should be drawn when it comes to posting big or irritating graphics, and the poster should just put a link to the page, video or image concerned so as not to waste people's time or effort. No offence clock or zombie, but isn't this sensible? Also, Apple have little incentive to best windows media player on performance within windows. have you checked out the difference using macOS? (you might have but i didn't read all of this forum due to being fed up with scrolling left and right all the time) Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism psyjax VIP Posts: 1,871 Kudos: 55 Apple Quicktime player sucks! « Reply #11 on: 1 April 2002, 22:11 » Ya... hey cahult, could you do us a favor and edit your post so you remove the links from the quote from Zombi6498498797? That would help alot. I asked Zombie Logged Psyjax! I RULEZZZZ!!! 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