Author Topic: If you thought Microsoft would just lay down and die... (Read 667 times)

lazygamer · « **on:** 10 May 2003, 11:24 »

Two stories:

Gates justifies stronger chains for hardware manufacturers

Ballmer: DRM is your fluffy friend

Ok I admit, MS had me fooled. I thought they were just gonna lie down and die.

TheKnifeThrower · « **Reply #1 on:** 10 May 2003, 22:31 »

How stupid is microsoft to beleive that people love anti piracy.

baggab · « **Reply #2 on:** 11 May 2003, 00:21 »

M$ has a 40 billion dollar cash position, give or take a billion.

The way to beat an advisary like that is to not look back. I, for one, know that OSS is the better choice. The next trick is to make a few bucks and the market will follow.

[ May 11, 2003: Message edited by: baggab ]

baggab · « **Reply #3 on:** 11 May 2003, 00:23 »

Typo: I ment OSS.

Once I edit a post can I delete this post?

[ May 11, 2003: Message edited by: baggab ]

baggab · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 May 2003, 00:43 »

I guess I will finish up for the week (I don't want to get sucked into ranting 24/7.) I will check back once a week, for educational growth.

This is an excellent site! To those who host it: thank you and keep up the good work.

I know this is a forum and contrary positions are encouraged. I will not be responding to those who defend M$. If that seems selfish and unenlightened, tough!

For those who are moving forward in OSS, I stress finding ways to make money on what you know. I will be outlining my projects in the future. This really is economic warfare. We're good at it and there are more of us!

Don't believe the hype about M$ market share: half those people would change in a "New York minute" if they knew the full details.

Get em!

Doctor V · « **Reply #5 on:** 11 May 2003, 05:42 »

quote:
"With rights-managed licensing, consumers can help sustain the flow of fresh creative work, confident that they have legitimately acquired rights to content that is authentic, of highest quality, and virus-free."

Virus-free? No wonder Windows security sucks so much. Its obvious Ballmer actually knows nothing about viruses. They're selling virus-free MP3s? This is making me laugh.

V

NM · « **Reply #6 on:** 11 May 2003, 10:06 »

He's probably thinking of .wma files. Knowing Microsoft there probably is a potential virus threat someplace, and of course, they're not fixing it until they're forced to.

jtpenrod · « **Reply #7 on:** 11 May 2003, 12:44 »

I really liked this part:

quote:
Here, for example, we have the whistleblower's nemesis, the unreadable or disappearing document: "...our forthcoming Office 2003 productivity software suite will enable users to designate who can open a document or email message, and specify the terms of use - for example, whether they can print, copy or forward the data. A rights management add-on for Internet Explorer will extend these protections to Web content." And you won't be able to do business with people using Microsoft rights management unless you're playing rights management too.

This will not result in a neo-Stalinist world where information flow is tightly circumscribed and where embarrassing/contentious documents disappear from the Web at the drop of an injunction you'd never even heard about. On the contrary: "As these technologies become widespread, their protection will help encourage wider sharing of information within and between organizations, improving communication and productivity by assuring information workers of the confidentiality of their documents and data."

That'll last long enough for, let's say, Al Qaida to use it to plan an attack, or the Medellin cartel to arrange a shipment of coke.

After that, the gov't won't tolerate this. Bad for law enforcement, not being able to snoop.

Hmmmm... May be, just may be Ballmer's finally on to something?

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choasforages · « **Reply #8 on:** 11 May 2003, 18:23 »

so quick to forget the clipper chip, so naive to beileve their claims you are. unable to see government holding keys to such a system you are
/*hehe, i think i might stick around more then a few post's this time*/

KernelPanic · « **Reply #9 on:** 11 May 2003, 20:47 »

baggab: You can edit your previous posts, just click the

button above your post

baggab · « **Reply #10 on:** 11 May 2003, 23:30 »

Thanks for the editing tip. Yes, I'm very new to forums.

I wasn't going to come back for a week, but wanted to let of some steam about M$, much like yesterday. I'm sure I got out of hand yesterday (for my newbie status,) but I don't think I was too out there.

I really wanted follow up on HTML editors and I got what I came for.

Thanks

[ May 11, 2003: Message edited by: baggab ]

jtpenrod · « **Reply #11 on:** 12 May 2003, 06:01 »

quote:
so quick to forget the clipper chip, so naive to beileve their claims you are. unable to see government holding keys to such a system you are

Sarcastic was I being.

_______________________________________
Live Free or Die: Linux

"There: now you'll never have to look at those dirty Windows anymore"
--Daffy Duck

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To those who host it: thank you and keep up the good work. I know this is a forum and contrary positions are encouraged. I will not be responding to those who defend M$. If that seems selfish and unenlightened, tough! For those who are moving forward in OSS, I stress finding ways to make money on what you know. I will be outlining my projects in the future. This really is economic warfare. We're good at it and there are more of us! Don't believe the hype about M$ market share: half those people would change in a "New York minute" if they knew the full details. Get em! Logged Doctor V Member Posts: 661 Kudos: 0 If you thought Microsoft would just lay down and die... « Reply #5 on: 11 May 2003, 05:42 » quote: "With rights-managed licensing, consumers can help sustain the flow of fresh creative work, confident that they have legitimately acquired rights to content that is authentic, of highest quality, and virus-free." Virus-free? No wonder Windows security sucks so much. Its obvious Ballmer actually knows nothing about viruses. They're selling virus-free MP3s? This is making me laugh. V Logged NM Member Posts: 37 Kudos: 0 If you thought Microsoft would just lay down and die... « Reply #6 on: 11 May 2003, 10:06 » He's probably thinking of .wma files. Knowing Microsoft there probably is a potential virus threat someplace, and of course, they're not fixing it until they're forced to. Logged jtpenrod VIP Posts: 675 Kudos: 105 If you thought Microsoft would just lay down and die... « Reply #7 on: 11 May 2003, 12:44 » I really liked this part: quote: Here, for example, we have the whistleblower's nemesis, the unreadable or disappearing document: "...our forthcoming Office 2003 productivity software suite will enable users to designate who can open a document or email message, and specify the terms of use - for example, whether they can print, copy or forward the data. A rights management add-on for Internet Explorer will extend these protections to Web content." And you won't be able to do business with people using Microsoft rights management unless you're playing rights management too. This will not result in a neo-Stalinist world where information flow is tightly circumscribed and where embarrassing/contentious documents disappear from the Web at the drop of an injunction you'd never even heard about. On the contrary: "As these technologies become widespread, their protection will help encourage wider sharing of information within and between organizations, improving communication and productivity by assuring information workers of the confidentiality of their documents and data." That'll last long enough for, let's say, Al Qaida to use it to plan an attack, or the Medellin cartel to arrange a shipment of coke. After that, the gov't won't tolerate this. Bad for law enforcement, not being able to snoop. Hmmmm... 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