Author Topic: Motorola's MHz = Mega Hurts (Read 965 times)

Zombie9920 · « **on:** 23 April 2002, 01:07 »

Here is a nice little read that I just came across.

http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/17368.html

psyjax · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 April 2002, 02:03 »

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie9920:
Here is a nice little read that I just came across.

http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/17368.html

Yep, I agree.

The language of the article is a bit sensational, but Apple fans have been fed up with Mototola's crap for years. This sort of thing has never been a secret.

Thank god Apple is rumerd to be looking for another chip manufacturer. I hope it's true.

EDIT:

Reading thrugh the headlines on this site strikes me that the whole thing is a bit sensational! Every title to an article reads like something out of a tabloid. Wierd.

[ April 22, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

Zombie9920 · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 April 2002, 02:10 »

quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:

Yep, I agree.

The language of the article is a bit sensational, but Apple fans have been fed up with Mototola's crap for years. This sort of thing has never been a secret.

Thank god Apple is rumerd to be looking for another chip manufacturer. I hope it's true.

I saw a rumour article on the net somewhere claiming that Apple is going to port OSX over to run on the AMD Hammer architecture and if all goes well they will use the 64-bit architecture in future OS releases. If this happens I don't know if it will work with the Intel Itanium or not(It really wouldn't matter if it did or not cause the Itanium is way too expensive for the home consumer). Heck, if I can dig up that article I'll post it for ya'll to read.

ravuya · « **Reply #3 on:** 23 April 2002, 06:29 »

Scuse me, but the PowerPC class of microprocessors are already 64-bit.

Zombie9920 · « **Reply #4 on:** 23 April 2002, 06:50 »

No they aren't. They are 32bit. G4's can process 128bit chunks of data when Altivec is being used, under normal circumstances they are 32 bit.

[ April 22, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

cahult · « **Reply #5 on:** 23 April 2002, 07:08 »

Still people believe in Megahertz = speed.

Why should someone go after megahertz alone when it comes to work on their computer? It is what you can do with the computer that counts in the real world. Someone said just a few months ago that even a 150 MHz computer is 80 % faster than the average user needs for his/her daily work! And daily work for most people isn

psyjax · « **Reply #6 on:** 23 April 2002, 07:43 »

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie9920:
No they aren't. They are 32bit. G4's can process 128bit chunks of data when Altivec is being used, under normal circumstances they are 32 bit.

[ April 22, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

Even so, it processes 4 streams of 32-bits each cicle, which adds up to more than one 64 bit chunk processed at a time. Plus, programs that are vectorized, run faster than anything else out there.

But as cahult said. Who really gives a shit?

When is the last time you picked up a box at the store and seen the system spciffications read like this:

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS:

2Ghz Processor or better
1.5GB of RAM
80GB Hard Drive
Display capable of 256-bit color
50x DVD-ROM

Didn't think so.

ravuya · « **Reply #7 on:** 23 April 2002, 18:20 »

quote:
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS:

2Ghz Processor or better
1.5GB of RAM
80GB Hard Drive
Display capable of 256-bit color
50x DVD-ROM[/QB]

Hm, betcha that's what the next home release of Winders will require or recommend.

Calum · « **Reply #8 on:** 23 April 2002, 19:26 »

quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
Even so, it processes 4 streams of 32-bits each cicle, which adds up to more than one 64 bit chunk processed at a time. Plus, programs that are vectorized, run faster than anything else out there.

What arithmetic are you using for that calculation? 4 streams of 32 bits sounds like a total effect of 36 bits to me. Is there some sort of extra processing going on that i don't know about?

psyjax · « **Reply #9 on:** 23 April 2002, 21:47 »

quote:
Originally posted by Calum:
What arithmetic are you using for that calculation? 4 streams of 32 bits sounds like a total effect of 36 bits to me. Is there some sort of extra processing going on that i don't know about?

Maybe Im understanding the specs wrong, but the way it was explained to me was that each cycle, 4 packets of 32-bits each, were processesed, instead of a 64-bit chunck like x86. Maybe Im wrong on that.

Kintaro · « **Reply #10 on:** 24 April 2002, 16:35 »

I prefer Intel CPU's than Motarola...
Personally, i dont use them so i dont deserve and opinion. If mac release OS X for PC, i would be happppppppy

Master of Reality · « **Reply #11 on:** 25 April 2002, 07:22 »

i prefer AMD.

cahult · « **Reply #12 on:** 25 April 2002, 07:26 »

I prefer sandwiches and hot cocoa.

Master of Reality · « **Reply #13 on:** 25 April 2002, 07:27 »

quote:
Originally posted by cahult:
I prefer sandwiches and hot cocoa.

as long as you put in some kahlua

Gonusto · « **Reply #14 on:** 25 April 2002, 11:23 »

And a couple of those little marshmallows . . . Mmmmm, good!

-Gonusto

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