Author Topic: You guys think that Macs are so damn fast? Have a look at this. (Read 979 times)

Zombie9920 · « **on:** 4 August 2002, 04:23 »

This article pits a dual 1ghz G4 machine against a Dual Athlon MP 2000+ machine and a Dell 2.53ghz Pentium 4 Northwood machine. Guess what, the Mac gets its' scrawny lil ass kicked. With that in mind, I don't see how you people can claim PPC is superior to x86. ;P

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/07_jul/features/cw_macvspc2.htm

Kintaro · « **Reply #1 on:** 4 August 2002, 06:28 »

I will compare my PC PIII 850mhz with a mac classic (68k)

Anyway:
Overall the mac is better because it can eject floppys from the software!

TheQuirk · « **Reply #2 on:** 4 August 2002, 06:31 »

oh gee, I wonder what computer will be faster.

rtgwbmsr · « **Reply #3 on:** 4 August 2002, 06:57 »

This guy (and the whole site) is VERY biased:

1) The main page is very Mac-browser unfriendly (Craploads of pictures, wierd frames).

2) "As expected the Mac did worse....." The "As expected" makes it biased.

3) If he put up a PIII 1 GHz, a dual Athlon 1.4 GHz, and a Dual 1 GHz, and a single 1 GHz Mac, the Macs would OWN the other two. "Macs are much faster than PCs at comparable speeds" The comparable speeds part makes the statement correct.

4) Duh! If you put something about 4 months old up against something else of TWICE the raw speed and that JUST came out against each other, which do you think will win?

5) The reviewer stated that the same settings and codecs were used in all tests. That means that the Mac was stripped of it's dual processor capabilities and it's G4 optimizations, totally crippling the thing! but that would ALSO cripple the P4, as P4 optimizations would be turned off, and the Dual capabilities of the Athlon would be turned off too. If the settings were any different, than it should be marked as such.

6) I am unable to reproduce anything even CLOSE to these numbers, with the same hardware and settings.

So, to sum it all up this guy is totally full of shit somewhere.

ravuya · « **Reply #4 on:** 4 August 2002, 07:51 »

quote:
Originally posted by Ex Eleven / b0b:

Anyway:
Overall the mac is better because it can eject floppys from the software!

it looks like Windows caught up with CD-ROMS, by right-clicking a CD-ROM in Windows and picking 'Eject' it will eject. But, nope, Windows won't eject floppies.

Because x86 floppy drives suck.

trc3 · « **Reply #5 on:** 4 August 2002, 08:38 »

I read about half the article, I mean I could really care less about all this benchmark crap and everyone that isint a complete moron knows OS10 is 100 times better then any version of windows to date. Bottom line it dosent matter witch one was 1.3 seconds faster, it matters how the finished product came out and im willing to bet that overall it looked better on the mac. Not to mention that it was on a computer with windows, so I dont care how much faster it was it still sucks.

[ August 03, 2002: Message edited by: trc3 ]

Pissed_Macman · « **Reply #6 on:** 4 August 2002, 15:20 »

Do I have to remind you people again that you cannot compare Mac and PC speed. They are two different configurations. The Mac's processor does move more slowly, but it is also more efficient. PCs have to move more quickly and they still don't measure up to the Mac. So zombie, you're right. In many cases PCs' processors are faster, but only because they have to work harder.

Zombie, you are an idiot! Everything you've posted here has been countered by us. You know this as well as I do, so please quit fighting us just to fight.

choasforages · « **Reply #7 on:** 5 August 2002, 00:46 »

ateast he tries harder then xpissant does, we have to give him credit there. and besides, my new saying is, IF IT INSNT MADE FROM UNIX, FUCK IT

choasforages · « **Reply #8 on:** 5 August 2002, 00:49 »

or, howaboit lets pit all those machines agianst a four processor dec alpha setup, 1 ghz, hmmmmm..... or howabout an origin 2k, howabout motorala isn't delivering right, now, ibm already has way faster ppc chips RIGHT NOW, now maybe if apple went with ibm, the mhz woes would be over. and not only would it be a more effeicent processor, it would have more mhz, thus kicking even more ass

cocoamix · « **Reply #9 on:** 5 August 2002, 01:23 »

Like any of the professional video editors or Photoshop experts will even care. Graphics and Video professionals are more concerned with the user interface, stability, and lack of hardware and OS headaches than crap like benchmarks.

It's like a guy who is constantly bragging that his dick is big but still has no idea how to please a woman.

choasforages · « **Reply #10 on:** 5 August 2002, 01:34 »

hey, its not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean

the_black_angel · « **Reply #11 on:** 5 August 2002, 18:16 »

If this is so true then why are macs stated as the best for digital design (2D/3D), and also why are companies such as ILM starting to use apple, and quote on DVD Documentarys thats they don't have to go to a render farm for most of there production period, only for the final "big" render do they go to a render farm and these are usually "a couple of hundred linked Linux boxes". i think that shows what i mean. If i can play Unreal in windows XP through Virtual PC on a 350mhz G4 and still get around 40 frames no one can dis it.

Calum · « **Reply #12 on:** 6 August 2002, 16:42 »

who fucking cares about some random numbers?

hey, zombie542863654782, i have this to say:

456 gyugre78989 re45646fghz
ghd86547954 yuy554564 09543
jfiore8564756g 6t4b n665 5

ha ha! that proves you are completely wrong!

what bullshit! if somebody wants to use a mac, why make up some loser test with an older machine, that the reviewer is too thick to know how to work properly?

what a waste of time.

slave · « **Reply #13 on:** 6 August 2002, 19:59 »

quote:
1) The main page is very Mac-browser unfriendly (Craploads of pictures, wierd frames).

I'm sorry your mediocre Macintosh can't handle web pages with frames and pictures, but don't take it out on us Windows users.

quote:
who fucking cares about some random numbers?

hey, zombie542863654782, i have this to say:

456 gyugre78989 re45646fghz
ghd86547954 yuy554564 09543
jfiore8564756g 6t4b n665 5

ha ha! that proves you are completely wrong!

Don't be a fool, Stephanie.

quote:
Like any of the professional video editors or Photoshop experts will even care. Graphics and Video professionals are more concerned with the user interface, stability, and lack of hardware and OS headaches than crap like benchmarks.

They should be concerened since x86 hardware is cheaper and more powerful.

PS Windows XP doesn't crash, you silly gooses

choasforages · « **Reply #14 on:** 6 August 2002, 21:14 »

i have personal experiance on winxp, and it does crash

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