AMD appears to join the fucker list...

[voidmain]

http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=232

Looks like I'll be finally buying that Mac/PPC soon to run my Linux on. Unless they are planning on joining the Palladium "fucker list" too.

 

quote:
Advanced Micro Devices will include Microsoft's Palladium "trusted" -- meaning Microsoft-approved software only -- support in its next generation of chips, according to published reports.

The Opteron chip, to be released in 2003, will refuse to run applications or display content that has not been digitally signed by Microsoft or one if its designees. This, Microsoft says, will increase security. Certainly it will increase the security of Microsoft Corporation and its shareholders.

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[Master of Reality]

I will try to get a SPARC.
Is there a ppc version of redhat?

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[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by The Master of Reality / Bob:
SPARC

I run UltraSparc at work but it's still way too expensive for home...

[Calum]

there's a ppc version of mandrake and also of SuSE according to this page here.

Red hat runs on alpha, intel/amd and itanium according to that page.

[voidmain]

I would probably try out YDL first since it was from the beginning targeted for running on Mac/PPC.

[Calum]

anybody actually tried it? i have not heard much about yellow dog, maybe i should get somebody to post a new topic if they have used it, either in the unix or mac forums. Oddly, the mac forum seems more relevant!

[sunshine]

Hey guys, you can chill out. and take pill. the biggest buyers of AMD chips are *nixers., Clusterers, and the like. So if AMD truly followed a no holds barred bargain with Micro$haft, to run only M$ $oftware, AMD will go under within a year of releasing the new Opteron specification.

[Refalm]

Can I install Linux on a computer with a Palladium setting inside?

[voidmain]

Not according to the article, unless there is a way to turn "off" the Palladium features which it appears they are trying to pass laws preventing that. But I guess we will have to wait and see since it's not out yet. I'm sure these questions will be answered before it's released. And it's going to be tough making other laws which require the use of Open source if possible, when they have a conflicting law preventing running open source software on said hardware. Ahhhh, it's all starting to make sense.  

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[sunshine]

Hey guys, you can chill out. and take pill. the biggest buyers of AMD chips are *nixers., Clusterers, and the like. So if AMD truly followed a no holds barred bargain with Micro$haft, to run only M$ $oftware, AMD will go under within a year of releasing the new Opteron specification.

[voidmain]

Uh, I don't think so... AMD has been making all kinds of deals with M$ and *NIX would be a very small fraction of their users.  AMD is already a member of the TCPA. And where do you think the name "XP" comes from in "Athlon XP"?  

I would venture to say that Intel is much more widely used to run Linux on than AMD, at least on the server end where Linux is most popular. I have seen more AMD/M$ love making lately than Intel/M$. Of course Intel is also a member of the TCPA but Intel has done a lot of Linux R&D which pisses M$ off to no end and could cause them to make even more deals with AMD just to threaten Intel.

Now who's the most evil?  I say they are equally evil as long as they are members of the TCPA and support Palladium. But I do like the current non-Palladium Athlon XPs.

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[KernelPanic]

quote:Originally posted by void main:
Not according to the article, unless there is a way to turn "off" the Palladium features which it appears they are trying to pass laws preventing that. But I guess we will have to wait and see since it's not out yet. I'm sure these questions will be answered before it's released. And it's going to be tough making other laws which require the use of Open source if possible, when they have a conflicting law preventing running open source software on said hardware. Ahhhh, it's all starting to make sense.    

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Unfortunately The TCPA fetures would be turned off after OS initialisation meaning that us linux users are fscked.
And to be honest I am rgetting very worried about the lack of media attention to this. By the time the brown stuff hits the proverbial blades then it will be too late.

I might have to start hassling the British media.

[voidmain]

I was more hoping for a BIOS switch that could just be toggled in the BIOS menu... Any other way would just be completely unacceptable. I guess you better double up on those CPU fans to keep the old processors running as long as possible...

[rtgwbmsr]

*MuffinMan (Dustin) kisses his PowerBook*

Hehe...I have the way out... of Palladium  

[voidmain]

Isn't Apple thinking of going with IBM PPC? IBM is also part of TCPA, which is confusing to me because they have also dumped over a billion in Linux. My guess is that IBM being part of TCPA might be a good thing. They will hopefully make sure the shenanigans are kept to a minimum...