Author Topic: AMD or Intel? (Read 894 times)

TruBSD · « **Reply #15 on:** 7 January 2002, 20:12 »

Yeah, amd chips put out more heat, but they can also stand a lot more heat than intel chips. I got my watercooled 1600+(1400 default) runnin at 1617Mhz, on my KG7 with 512mb of shity samsung ddr(need some kingmax pc2700, then watch this sumbitch smoke anything when i hit 2ghz)I used to be an intel zealot(back in the k6 days when amd made some pretty weeeny chips)But now that i've got one of these bad boys, i'm quite happy with it.

magnuslee21 · « **Reply #16 on:** 7 January 2002, 21:36 »

how did you get the cooling system to work?
ive been thinking of setting one up but all i could think of was running bent tubing around the chip like a radiator and hooking it up to a compressor and running r-134 through the lines but the output isnt worth the effort unless you use lox or liquid nitro

amd athlon 1750 paired
fic m11 mainboard
1536 meg pny ddr ram
quantum fireball III 10000rpm 160 gig hd

beat that

TruBSD · « **Reply #17 on:** 8 January 2002, 18:49 »

I just used a radiator, a mag-drive pump, some silicon tubing, water, and water-wetter, and a waterblock that i got from Tom Leufkins. At one point after my first pump failed, i was running a 800gph(@6' lift) in there, made noise but my temps droped by 3 degrees! I eventually put a 450gph magdrive in there(much quiter) And i've been happy at 5 degrees above ambient(gonna get 2 220w pelts soon, -30c is looking like a good number

) But anyway, the water is pumped from the res -> waterblock -> radiater -> back to the res. I'm also gonna try to get a dehumidifier, and modify it's coil to cool my radiator. This setup is a lot quiter, and much cooler than when i was going air-cooled(damn delta fan was driving me nuts!) You just have to be careful when you watercool, and hose clamps are your friend!

gump420 · « **Reply #18 on:** 18 January 2002, 01:29 »

quote:
Originally posted by magnus lee:
slot type boards are better that socket type partially because of the chip layout itself

first the stand-up slot type gets better airflow around the chip and through the heatsink than a socket type because you cant get air to the back of the chip in a socket

second the standup slot type fans generally face into the airflow inside the case unlike socket type which trys to pull air cross-flow from the main air flow generally a difference of 5 to 10 mhz

amd athlon 1750 paired
fic m11 mainboard
1536 meg pny ddr ram
quantum fireball III 10000rpm 160 gig hd

beat that

What you say about the airflow is true; however, slot processors have one major drawback: bus speed between the processor/cache and the rest of the system. AFAIK, this is the reason AMD opted to switch back to a socket architecture.

MICROSOFT_RULES · « **Reply #19 on:** 25 January 2002, 13:22 »

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Calum · « **Reply #20 on:** 25 January 2002, 19:50 »

The question was AMD or Intel, dicksplash, nobody asked you about microsoft. If i want noise, i'll rattle yr cage.

geekzaus · « **Reply #21 on:** 25 January 2002, 20:51 »

AMD!!! Intel's chips are more expensive and don't do as well in benchmark tests. I work as a computer technician for a major Cable ISP, and work with a great deal of experienced professionals. All of us build machines and all of us use AMD! :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

P.S. Off subject a little: I also use MSI and ABIT motherboards.

Calum · « **Reply #22 on:** 26 January 2002, 17:07 »

I heard that AMD are giving their new chips names which include numbers that are higher than the actual clock speeds. eg, a 1500 Mhz chip will be an "AMD blah-de-blah 1800" Why? Because they say their chips go faster than Intels, at the same clock speed, and the AMD 1500 is capable of outperforming an Intel 1800.
I also heard that in many benchmarks, the Pentium 4 does WORSE than a pentium 3! Of course, in a year or 2 this might not be the case, as programs start to be written specifically for Intel (which is another reason AMD is better, programs aren't even sucking it's dick like they are with Intel!)

k3it4r0u · « **Reply #23 on:** 26 January 2002, 18:37 »

I'd have to go with Intel for only three reasons:

1. I can get P4s from them for dirt-cheap, about 90% off.

2. Gotta love MPEG encoding. I don't want to waste money buying another video card to enhance my work with MPEGs when it's already there with the P4.
3. I am an idiot.

[add]
Oh yeah, and here's another reason:
http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/cpu/northwood2200/ln2

[ January 26, 2002: Message edited by: k3it4r0u ]

Ozymandias · « **Reply #24 on:** 1 February 2002, 17:04 »

Sombody needs to do something about that fucking microsoft rules asshole.. It seems that his messages pop up everywhere and are completely pointless...(Kinda like mine)

Delete his messages or something!!

Calum · « **Reply #25 on:** 1 February 2002, 19:30 »

yeah! delete his messages! but remember to delete all the ones i posted immediately afterwards saying what a gobshite he is, so i don't look like a dick!

« previous next » Print Pages: 1 [2] Go Down Author Topic: AMD or Intel? (Read 894 times) TruBSD Newbie Posts: 7 Kudos: 0 AMD or Intel? « Reply #15 on: 7 January 2002, 20:12 » Yeah, amd chips put out more heat, but they can also stand a lot more heat than intel chips. I got my watercooled 1600+(1400 default) runnin at 1617Mhz, on my KG7 with 512mb of shity samsung ddr(need some kingmax pc2700, then watch this sumbitch smoke anything when i hit 2ghz)I used to be an intel zealot(back in the k6 days when amd made some pretty weeeny chips)But now that i've got one of these bad boys, i'm quite happy with it. Logged If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands? I chew my food, but why is it i can only see the corn and peanuts? magnuslee21 Newbie Posts: 4 Kudos: 0 AMD or Intel? « Reply #16 on: 7 January 2002, 21:36 » how did you get the cooling system to work? ive been thinking of setting one up but all i could think of was running bent tubing around the chip like a radiator and hooking it up to a compressor and running r-134 through the lines but the output isnt worth the effort unless you use lox or liquid nitro amd athlon 1750 paired fic m11 mainboard 1536 meg pny ddr ram quantum fireball III 10000rpm 160 gig hd beat that Logged TruBSD Newbie Posts: 7 Kudos: 0 AMD or Intel? « Reply #17 on: 8 January 2002, 18:49 » I just used a radiator, a mag-drive pump, some silicon tubing, water, and water-wetter, and a waterblock that i got from Tom Leufkins. At one point after my first pump failed, i was running a 800gph(@6' lift) in there, made noise but my temps droped by 3 degrees! I eventually put a 450gph magdrive in there(much quiter) And i've been happy at 5 degrees above ambient(gonna get 2 220w pelts soon, -30c is looking like a good number ) But anyway, the water is pumped from the res -> waterblock -> radiater -> back to the res. I'm also gonna try to get a dehumidifier, and modify it's coil to cool my radiator. This setup is a lot quiter, and much cooler than when i was going air-cooled(damn delta fan was driving me nuts!) You just have to be careful when you watercool, and hose clamps are your friend! Logged If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands? I chew my food, but why is it i can only see the corn and peanuts? gump420 Member Posts: 168 Kudos: 0 AMD or Intel? « Reply #18 on: 18 January 2002, 01:29 » quote: Originally posted by magnus lee: slot type boards are better that socket type partially because of the chip layout itself first the stand-up slot type gets better airflow around the chip and through the heatsink than a socket type because you cant get air to the back of the chip in a socket second the standup slot type fans generally face into the airflow inside the case unlike socket type which trys to pull air cross-flow from the main air flow generally a difference of 5 to 10 mhz amd athlon 1750 paired fic m11 mainboard 1536 meg pny ddr ram quantum fireball III 10000rpm 160 gig hd beat that What you say about the airflow is true; however, slot processors have one major drawback: bus speed between the processor/cache and the rest of the system. AFAIK, this is the reason AMD opted to switch back to a socket architecture. Logged I can't get over you until you get out from under him. MICROSOFT_RULES Newbie Posts: 17 Kudos: 0 AMD or Intel? « Reply #19 on: 25 January 2002, 13:22 » MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MICROSOFT RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1V Logged Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 AMD or Intel? « Reply #20 on: 25 January 2002, 19:50 » The question was AMD or Intel, dicksplash, nobody asked you about microsoft. If i want noise, i'll rattle yr cage. Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism geekzaus Newbie Posts: 1 Kudos: 0 AMD or Intel? « Reply #21 on: 25 January 2002, 20:51 » AMD!!! Intel's chips are more expensive and don't do as well in benchmark tests. I work as a computer technician for a major Cable ISP, and work with a great deal of experienced professionals. All of us build machines and all of us use AMD! :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: P.S. Off subject a little: I also use MSI and ABIT motherboards. Logged Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 AMD or Intel? « Reply #22 on: 26 January 2002, 17:07 » I heard that AMD are giving their new chips names which include numbers that are higher than the actual clock speeds. eg, a 1500 Mhz chip will be an "AMD blah-de-blah 1800" Why? Because they say their chips go faster than Intels, at the same clock speed, and the AMD 1500 is capable of outperforming an Intel 1800. I also heard that in many benchmarks, the Pentium 4 does WORSE than a pentium 3! Of course, in a year or 2 this might not be the case, as programs start to be written specifically for Intel (which is another reason AMD is better, programs aren't even sucking it's dick like they are with Intel!) Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism k3it4r0u Member Posts: 29 Kudos: 0 AMD or Intel? « Reply #23 on: 26 January 2002, 18:37 » I'd have to go with Intel for only three reasons: 1. I can get P4s from them for dirt-cheap, about 90% off. 2. Gotta love MPEG encoding. I don't want to waste money buying another video card to enhance my work with MPEGs when it's already there with the P4. 3. I am an idiot. [add] Oh yeah, and here's another reason: http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/cpu/northwood2200/ln2 [ January 26, 2002: Message edited by: k3it4r0u ] Logged (c) 2000 The Microsoft C++ Class It's grammar, not grammer. Ozymandias Member Posts: 20 Kudos: 0 AMD or Intel? « Reply #24 on: 1 February 2002, 17:04 » Sombody needs to do something about that fucking microsoft rules asshole.. It seems that his messages pop up everywhere and are completely pointless...(Kinda like mine) Delete his messages or something!! Logged Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 AMD or Intel? « Reply #25 on: 1 February 2002, 19:30 » yeah! delete his messages! but remember to delete all the ones i posted immediately afterwards saying what a gobshite he is, so i don't look like a dick! 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