MS to share Source Code to China.

[mobrien_12]

First read the story describing how Gates has chosen to reveal ALL the windows source code to the Chineese government.  

Gates  reveals Windows code to China

Then read the older story where Jim Allchin said that revealing all of the Windows source code would jeopardize national security.

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first zdnet talkback response to story

Draw your own conclusions.

[ March 01, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]

[Zero Cool]

Once the Chinese Goverment finds out about the numerous security vulnerabilities in windows they won't hesitate to opt for using another operating system. I'm surprised Gates even gave up the source code, I thought it was shoved so far up his ass that nobody was able to find it!

[TheKnifeThrower]

It would be quite funny if someone leaked the source code to the public.

[Fett101]

In China? I don't doubt it will.

[mc0282]

Maybe now microsot quit being childless , and get into the open source world now , if not micrsoft is going to get big  compition with linux.

Microsoft  try sue your way out of this one .. fuckin big babys

[zooloo]

It's because the Chinese belive MS stuff had backdoors for the US security services to use.

China is not wrong.

[TheKnifeThrower]

Im sure they are showing them a modified version for the source code as is with everyone viewing it.

[lazygamer]

That's a logical assumption. Two problems:

1)Windows source code is HUGE! Far too much to significantly modify.

2)The people who make it, know it, and have to edit it are incompetent to a certain degree. The result is that extra sensitive code is not properly modified.

UNLESS, they simply chop out massive blocks of code. Nonetheless, #1 and #2 still come into play. Of course I wonder if it's possible to notice pieces missing. IE:"This section does something and is connected to section B." But where's section B?  

[SAJChurchey]

Wow,

Open-Source is un-American and is a threat to capitalism.  Yet he gives source code to a communist country.  Can someone smell hypocrisy?  '

That's the best thing about windows code being so huge.  U can close ur eyes, point and find a bug.  w/ little or no possibility of hitting the table or  white space anything.

[AlexMax]

Can you say TREASON!?!?

[Refalm]

quote:Originally posted by SAJChurchey:
Open-Source is un-American and is a threat to capitalism.  Yet he gives source code to a communist country.

Your statement is untrue. Did you think Red Hat, Sun, Mandrake, etc. are groups of people that make OS's for hobby or fun? No. They make Open Source products to benefit themselves.

For example, Sun created OpenOffice.org not to make the best office packet, but to deliver a stable and good core to StarOffice. Sun spends less this way on bug-fixes, coding and design, because an Open Source community is doing that for them.
The same story goes with Red Hat. The personal edition is just a good core for their "Advanced server" product.

[KernelPanic]

quote:Originally posted by Refalm:


Your statement is untrue. Did you think Red Hat, Sun, Mandrake, etc. are groups of people that make OS's for hobby or fun? No. They make Open Source products to benefit themselves.

For example, Sun created OpenOffice.org not to make the best office packet, but to deliver a stable and good core to StarOffice. Sun spends less this way on bug-fixes, coding and design, because an Open Source community is doing that for them.
The same story goes with Red Hat. The personal edition is just a good core for their "Advanced server" product.

SAJchurchey was paraphrasing Bill Gates.

[Calum]

quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:
UNLESS, they simply chop out massive blocks of code. Nonetheless, #1 and #2 still come into play. Of course I wonder if it's possible to notice pieces missing. IE:"This section does something and is connected to section B." But where's section B?    

well if you were to compile it and then run it, you would spot that it doesn't work, but then that's the case with an unmodified version of windows anyway.

as for china, the only reason microsoft are pandering to them (get it? panda? china? oh never mind...) is that china's government switched to linux last year and they want some of that juicy revenue back. why the chinese government even want windows source code is beyond me.

[TheKnifeThrower]

quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:
UNLESS, they simply chop out massive blocks of code. Nonetheless, #1 and #2 still come into play. Of course I wonder if it's possible to notice pieces missing. IE:"This section does something and is connected to section B." But where's section B?    

The bits they leave ot wont be required to run windows. Windows doesn't need to have extra code which spies on you. It's just an extra put in by microsoft.

[lazygamer]

Does the code even have to be compiled? The idea is that all the source code gets leaked(except the stuff that MS didn't include), eventually extremly effective skript kiddy toolz pop up everywhere and people start a mass anti-wind0ze panic(due to a security epedemic that won't stop). It will be impossible for MS to fix all these years of sloppy(and massive) code. Of course this is all in theroy...