Author Topic: AmigaOS anyone? (Read 725 times)

feetpete · « **on:** 6 December 2003, 15:03 »

Ok, it's not Linux, it doesn't have a fancy GUI like MacOS X, nor does it have any enhancements like post 96 operating systems have, or the hardware support of modern computing systems (although it does support most modern PPC processors and can run under JIT on i386), and it doesn't have any killer apps on it (anything that is available is mostly outdated by several years)...

But, like Unix and Linux, it had proper multitasking since 1984, is entirely GUI oriented (supporting a windowed CLI even if your HD is bare and formatted)and can run off of a floppy under a minimum install (try that with Windows). It just kicks Windows' ass, even XP (although it's my opinion).

Not everyone likes it, and it's fair to suggest people have forgotten its existence (it is still under development and is in much need of an update plus support for modern hardware) but it's my personal favourite next to Linux. Mac OSX comes in a very close third.

Anyone else have a favourite OS they prefer? Positive comments welcome.

BTW SOLARIS: Where do you get the code/script whatever it is to make your signatures on your posts with my IP and OS info? I like it and it could be useful to me.

Pissed_Macman · « **Reply #1 on:** 6 December 2003, 15:41 »

This what you're talking about?

Just copy that image's url and put an

tag after it in your profile (but you probably knew that already).

Refalm · « **Reply #2 on:** 6 December 2003, 23:28 »

It looks amazing:

And it's for PPC.

hm_murdock · « **Reply #3 on:** 7 December 2003, 01:34 »

Amiga OS is great. You can also try AROS on x86 if you wish.

I, however, am I NeXTStep fan

BouncingAyatollah · « **Reply #4 on:** 19 December 2003, 23:22 »

There are some reports/pics of AOS4 from a recent show in Bath, UK here:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gline/bath_report/

and here:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/features/index.php?op=r&cat_id=1&rev_id=42&sort_by

and an MP3 of Alan Redhouse's speech from the show here, 20Mb, (a bit muffled though):

http://www.rycochet.com/

Hyperion are working towards a beta version release at the moment.

restin256 · « **Reply #5 on:** 17 February 2004, 05:59 »

If it's entirely GUI-based, as XP is, does it not it have a command-prompt to fall back on when things fuck up? You can do that with Linux and every Windoze before 95.

mobrien_12 · « **Reply #6 on:** 17 February 2004, 10:57 »

Amigas were really nice computers. Very powerful, nice multimedia, multitasking OS.

I don't remember why Commodore went under.

BouncingAyatollah · « **Reply #7 on:** 21 February 2004, 00:01 »

quote:
If it's entirely GUI-based, as XP is, does it not it have a command-prompt to fall back on when things fuck up? You can do that with Linux and every Windoze before 95.

With "Classic" AmigaOS there wasn't a text-mode screen, even shells were rendered fonts with graphical gadgets etc. Even the boot-menu on an A1200 was a GUI (before anything had loaded from HD/floppy). This was because the ROM contained GUI elements and filesystem etc. Not having an AmigaOne I have no idea how this has changed on the new machines. Besides things never fucked up to the point of needing a complete reinstall in my experience. In several YEARS of using an Amiga I *never* had to "do a resinstall" EVER, except for when I got a bigger HD when a "reinstall" was copying files across from one HD to another and rebooting. However, there was a no-startup shell, and once Workbench (dekstop) had loaded you have AmigaShells like consoles in linux. Again - no idea how this has changed though, hopefully not radically.

On CBM going under, the simple answer was very bad management decisions - the engineers knew a good machine (e.g. the unreleased A3000+ with onboard SCSI, AGA chipset etc.), whereas the managers only knew a "cost effective" machine, e.g. the A4000 with onboard IDE and cheap-looking PC-style case and the A500-"successor", the A600 which was a massive flop. Also un-engineering and reimplementing the chipset which was tightly tied to the hardware was slow going, so two different attempts to provide a chipset with features to compete with burgeoning SVGA capabilities did not come to fruition

Calum · « **Reply #8 on:** 22 February 2004, 22:23 »

forgive me for being ignorant but is there a way i can try this out on a pentium 3 based machine? i have mandrake, windows ME (it's for my university's windows software to run on godsdamnit!) and a spare ext2 partition i could wipe if there was an easy way to install amigaOS on there. or is it best to try it in an amiga emulator (or get a real amiga? i think my sister has one actually.... still, it'd be easier for me to stick it on my free partition.

Fett101 · « **Reply #9 on:** 22 February 2004, 23:12 »

I used an Amiga emulator before. Worked decently. I can't quite remember the name of it, but I know I got it off a P2P.

Laukev7 · « **Reply #10 on:** 22 February 2004, 23:23 »

quote:
Originally posted by Fett101:
I used an Amiga emulator before. Worked decently. I can't quite remember the name of it, but I know I got it off a P2P.

UAE.

mobrien_12 · « **Reply #11 on:** 23 February 2004, 02:02 »

The only problem with the Amiga emulators was that you needed to have a copy of the Amiga kickstart ROM on disk to make it work. If you owned a working Amiga, you could make one on a floppy fairly easily.

They used to be available on the net, but people are still maintaining and selling the AmigaOS, and were selling this kickstart ROM image too. If I recall correctly, you will infringe on the Amiga copyright if you download the ROM image for free.

Which is too bad. Alot of us would like to play around with an emulator.

[ February 22, 2004: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]

Fett101 · « **Reply #12 on:** 23 February 2004, 05:42 »

When has legality ever stopped anyone on a P2P?

nails · « **Reply #13 on:** 26 February 2004, 06:46 »

yeah, amiga os is the goods

that acmiga screenshot looks beautiful! - it's just the right ammount of style vs minimilism

ive read / seen good things about beos aswell (and am interested in the open beos project)
both os's seem to be really good 'arty' type ones (like mac - multimedia centric)

linux is coo, just cos it's linux, and the mascot is a cute penguin (i mean, what other reason's do you need?

)

restin256 · « **Reply #14 on:** 26 February 2004, 22:27 »

Damn, now I want to develop a AmigaOS lookalike WM based on some Fluxbox code.

« previous next » Print Pages: [1] 2 Go Down Author Topic: AmigaOS anyone? (Read 725 times) feetpete Newbie Posts: 11 Kudos: 0 AmigaOS anyone? « on: 6 December 2003, 15:03 » Ok, it's not Linux, it doesn't have a fancy GUI like MacOS X, nor does it have any enhancements like post 96 operating systems have, or the hardware support of modern computing systems (although it does support most modern PPC processors and can run under JIT on i386), and it doesn't have any killer apps on it (anything that is available is mostly outdated by several years)... But, like Unix and Linux, it had proper multitasking since 1984, is entirely GUI oriented (supporting a windowed CLI even if your HD is bare and formatted)and can run off of a floppy under a minimum install (try that with Windows). It just kicks Windows' ass, even XP (although it's my opinion). Not everyone likes it, and it's fair to suggest people have forgotten its existence (it is still under development and is in much need of an update plus support for modern hardware) but it's my personal favourite next to Linux. Mac OSX comes in a very close third. Anyone else have a favourite OS they prefer? Positive comments welcome. BTW SOLARIS: Where do you get the code/script whatever it is to make your signatures on your posts with my IP and OS info? I like it and it could be useful to me. Logged Optimist: Glass is half full Pessimist: Glass is half empty IT Technician: Glass is twice as big as it needs to be Pissed_Macman VIP Posts: 2,499 Kudos: 0 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #1 on: 6 December 2003, 15:41 » This what you're talking about? Just copy that image's url and put an tag after it in your profile (but you probably knew that already). Logged Refalm Administrator Posts: 5,159 Kudos: 704 Sjembek! AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #2 on: 6 December 2003, 23:28 » It looks amazing: And it's for PPC. Logged Radio Knop . hm_murdock VIP Posts: 2,627 Kudos: 378 The Lord of Thyme AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #3 on: 7 December 2003, 01:34 » Amiga OS is great. You can also try AROS on x86 if you wish. I, however, am I NeXTStep fan Logged Go the fuck ~ BouncingAyatollah Member Posts: 58 Kudos: 0 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #4 on: 19 December 2003, 23:22 » There are some reports/pics of AOS4 from a recent show in Bath, UK here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gline/bath_report/ and here: http://amigaworld.net/modules/features/index.php?op=r&cat_id=1&rev_id=42&sort_by and an MP3 of Alan Redhouse's speech from the show here, 20Mb, (a bit muffled though): http://www.rycochet.com/ Hyperion are working towards a beta version release at the moment. Logged The cheese would have to be subatomic size before quantum cheese effects would take over -- and then it wouldn't be identifiable as cheese any longer. restin256 Member Posts: 257 Kudos: 0 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #5 on: 17 February 2004, 05:59 » If it's entirely GUI-based, as XP is, does it not it have a command-prompt to fall back on when things fuck up? You can do that with Linux and every Windoze before 95. Logged This isn't the place you vent your opinions. mobrien_12 VIP Posts: 2,138 Kudos: 711 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #6 on: 17 February 2004, 10:57 » Amigas were really nice computers. Very powerful, nice multimedia, multitasking OS. I don't remember why Commodore went under. Logged In brightest day, in darkest night, no evil shall escape my sight.... BouncingAyatollah Member Posts: 58 Kudos: 0 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #7 on: 21 February 2004, 00:01 » quote: If it's entirely GUI-based, as XP is, does it not it have a command-prompt to fall back on when things fuck up? You can do that with Linux and every Windoze before 95. With "Classic" AmigaOS there wasn't a text-mode screen, even shells were rendered fonts with graphical gadgets etc. Even the boot-menu on an A1200 was a GUI (before anything had loaded from HD/floppy). This was because the ROM contained GUI elements and filesystem etc. Not having an AmigaOne I have no idea how this has changed on the new machines. Besides things never fucked up to the point of needing a complete reinstall in my experience. In several YEARS of using an Amiga I never had to "do a resinstall" EVER, except for when I got a bigger HD when a "reinstall" was copying files across from one HD to another and rebooting. However, there was a no-startup shell, and once Workbench (dekstop) had loaded you have AmigaShells like consoles in linux. Again - no idea how this has changed though, hopefully not radically. On CBM going under, the simple answer was very bad management decisions - the engineers knew a good machine (e.g. the unreleased A3000+ with onboard SCSI, AGA chipset etc.), whereas the managers only knew a "cost effective" machine, e.g. the A4000 with onboard IDE and cheap-looking PC-style case and the A500-"successor", the A600 which was a massive flop. Also un-engineering and reimplementing the chipset which was tightly tied to the hardware was slow going, so two different attempts to provide a chipset with features to compete with burgeoning SVGA capabilities did not come to fruition Logged The cheese would have to be subatomic size before quantum cheese effects would take over -- and then it wouldn't be identifiable as cheese any longer. Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #8 on: 22 February 2004, 22:23 » forgive me for being ignorant but is there a way i can try this out on a pentium 3 based machine? i have mandrake, windows ME (it's for my university's windows software to run on godsdamnit!) and a spare ext2 partition i could wipe if there was an easy way to install amigaOS on there. or is it best to try it in an amiga emulator (or get a real amiga? i think my sister has one actually.... still, it'd be easier for me to stick it on my free partition. Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism Fett101 VIP Posts: 1,581 Kudos: 85 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #9 on: 22 February 2004, 23:12 » I used an Amiga emulator before. Worked decently. I can't quite remember the name of it, but I know I got it off a P2P. Logged Visit the FGMMA! Laukev7 VIP Posts: 2,825 Kudos: 494 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #10 on: 22 February 2004, 23:23 » quote: Originally posted by Fett101: I used an Amiga emulator before. Worked decently. I can't quite remember the name of it, but I know I got it off a P2P. UAE. Logged mobrien_12 VIP Posts: 2,138 Kudos: 711 AmigaOS anyone? « Reply #11 on: 23 February 2004, 02:02 » The only problem with the Amiga emulators was that you needed to have a copy of the Amiga kickstart ROM on disk to make it work. If you owned a working Amiga, you could make one on a floppy fairly easily. They used to be available on the net, but people are still maintaining and selling the AmigaOS, and were selling this kickstart ROM image too. If I recall correctly, you will infringe on the Amiga copyright if you download the ROM image for free. Which is too bad. Alot of us would like to play around with an emulator. [ February 22, 2004: Message edited by: M. 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