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Kintaro · « **on:** 11 August 2002, 06:28 »

You know what would be a good idea... an absoulutely Kick ass idea. If some kick ass developers made a Free MacOS like os, but based on *NIX that way it would be like MacOS X but fuly open source, use GNOME or KDE for the GUI.

smokey · « **Reply #1 on:** 11 August 2002, 06:56 »

Quote from: Kintaro

You know what would be a good idea... an absoulutely Kick ass idea. If some kick ass developers made a Free MacOS like os, but based on *NIX that way it would be like MacOS X but fuly open source, use GNOME or KDE for the GUI.

errm I must be missing the point. A *nix system modded to be like MacOS but running KDE or GNOME so you dont even know. What is the difference between running this and Redhat with KDE or GNOME?

choasforages · « **Reply #2 on:** 11 August 2002, 07:08 »

ummm, darwin + gnu userlands + kde. if i had some ppc hardware, i would already be running that along with macosx

Calum · « **Reply #3 on:** 11 August 2002, 22:05 »

firstly, mandrake linux is free and can run on a mac, and it is GNU/Linux. Secondly, MacOSX is MacOS-like and it is based on BSD Darwin.

Also, BeOS runs on a mac does it not? however it is not unix like, doesn't (as far as i know) act like MacOS and the company has fallen through. Still, i think that this is still an impressive list on this score.

Re: MaCOSX, is it free? or does it officially cost? what versions of macos are free and so on for if you were to buy a second hand mac and want to put a different macOS on it from the one it comes with? anybody know? (and did i ask this before? doh!)

choasforages · « **Reply #4 on:** 12 August 2002, 06:30 »

by any chance can you compile your own kernel for macosx, and is it somewhat supported or not

Kintaro · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 August 2002, 11:58 »

Yes but also have it completely "User Oblivious" like mac!

slave · « **Reply #6 on:** 12 August 2002, 21:53 »

Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't)

smokey · « **Reply #7 on:** 13 August 2002, 03:06 »

Quote from: slave

Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't)

You are right except the part of BSD which as you say "stole" was released back to the public as open source here http://developer.apple.com/darwin/

Kintaro · « **Reply #8 on:** 13 August 2002, 13:34 »

Quote from: slave

Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't)

No your the fool, what im saying is make a free OS-X you dumb evil fuck!

the_black_angel · « **Reply #9 on:** 13 August 2002, 18:47 »

get the x86 version of darwin or GNU-darwin and install x-windows and your favourite manager. Then set up an aqua theme

[ August 13, 2002: Message edited by: the_black_angel ]

psyjax · « **Reply #10 on:** 13 August 2002, 22:21 »

Quote from: Calum

Re: MaCOSX, is it free? or does it officially cost? what versions of macos are free and so on for if you were to buy a second hand mac and want to put a different macOS on it from the one it comes with? anybody know? (and did i ask this before? doh!)

Mac OS 7.5 and bellow are absolutely free. Mac OSX's core, darwin is free and open source, the GUI/system is really what you pay for when you buy OSX. OSX comes free with every Mac.

Kintaro · « **Reply #11 on:** 16 August 2002, 21:18 »

Yes but macs are the best computers for stupid people. Somthing like the mac but UNIX based (Like OS-X) For example have a fake filesystem...

Really all the software is installed in the /usr/share but to the user its just an icon in a menu that can be right clicked and uninstalled. Simple stuff like that!

choasforages · « **Reply #12 on:** 17 August 2002, 01:48 »

kde with mosfets liquid theme. that would work great

Kintaro · « **Reply #13 on:** 17 August 2002, 06:52 »

Its not how it looks, its feel.

Gnome, Kde, and the rest are UNIX styled.
Start from scratch...

hm_murdock · « **Reply #14 on:** 28 September 2002, 14:57 »

Here's what you do...

Start with Darwin, build your own Display PostScript or Display PDF layer so that you can provide a Quartz-like graphics layer, then get a nice, cushy UI framework (KDE, Gnome, et cetera) and make said framework pervasive the way Aqua is with OS X.

Remember, OS X isn't just X11 with a pretty window manager, it's a whole new graphics engine combined with the Carbon/Cocoa frameworks which handle all the UI stuff.

Really, the graphics layer would be the fun part, after that, you'd just have to either adapt your framework to it, or design your graphics layer to emulate X11 calls.

Fiddle around with OpenStep, or see if you can get your mits on Rhapsody and hack the holy living fuck out of it.

If you could get some programmers together and make that work... actually pull off an open source implemenation of OS X, or something like it... you'd be the next Linus Torvalds!

« previous next » Print Pages: [1] 2 Go Down Author Topic: Free OS-X (Read 888 times) Kintaro Member Posts: 6,539 Kudos: 254 Greed is the sole driver of human progress Free OS-X « on: 11 August 2002, 06:28 » You know what would be a good idea... an absoulutely Kick ass idea. If some kick ass developers made a Free MacOS like os, but based on NIX that way it would be like MacOS X but fuly open source, use GNOME or KDE for the GUI. Logged Refalm rules with a broken fist! Your Internet needs You: http://tmrepository.com/ My shitty website: www.johntate.org Ever been geeky enough to be able to talk on finch over ssh? With a www.fawltyservers.com shell account, your e-penis is bigger. My extremist blog: www.extremecapitalists.com smokey Member Posts: 183 Kudos: 0 Free OS-X « Reply #1 on:* 11 August 2002, 06:56 » Quote from: Kintaro You know what would be a good idea... an absoulutely Kick ass idea. If some kick ass developers made a Free MacOS like os, but based on NIX that way it would be like MacOS X but fuly open source, use GNOME or KDE for the GUI. errm I must be missing the point. A nix system modded to be like MacOS but running KDE or GNOME so you dont even know. What is the difference between running this and Redhat with KDE or GNOME? « Last Edit: 7 February 2008, 14:28 by Orethrius » Logged //this is how I was born cat /dev/urandom > /dev/mybrain Tip for win98 (l)users: type copy /con/con in your command prompt to increase stability choasforages VIP Posts: 1,729 Kudos: 7 Free OS-X « Reply #2 on: 11 August 2002, 07:08 » ummm, darwin + gnu userlands + kde. if i had some ppc hardware, i would already be running that along with macosx Logged x86: a hack on a hack of a hackway alpha, hewlett packed it A-way ppc: the fruity way mips: the graphical way sparc: the sunny way 4:20.....forget the DMCA for a while!!! Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 Free OS-X « Reply #3 on: 11 August 2002, 22:05 » firstly, mandrake linux is free and can run on a mac, and it is GNU/Linux. Secondly, MacOSX is MacOS-like and it is based on BSD Darwin. Also, BeOS runs on a mac does it not? however it is not unix like, doesn't (as far as i know) act like MacOS and the company has fallen through. Still, i think that this is still an impressive list on this score. Re: MaCOSX, is it free? or does it officially cost? what versions of macos are free and so on for if you were to buy a second hand mac and want to put a different macOS on it from the one it comes with? anybody know? (and did i ask this before? doh!) Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism choasforages VIP Posts: 1,729 Kudos: 7 Free OS-X « Reply #4 on: 12 August 2002, 06:30 » by any chance can you compile your own kernel for macosx, and is it somewhat supported or not Logged x86: a hack on a hack of a hackway alpha, hewlett packed it A-way ppc: the fruity way mips: the graphical way sparc: the sunny way 4:20.....forget the DMCA for a while!!! Kintaro Member Posts: 6,539 Kudos: 254 Greed is the sole driver of human progress Free OS-X « Reply #5 on: 12 August 2002, 11:58 » Yes but also have it completely "User Oblivious" like mac! Logged Refalm rules with a broken fist! Your Internet needs You: http://tmrepository.com/ My shitty website: www.johntate.org Ever been geeky enough to be able to talk on finch over ssh? With a www.fawltyservers.com shell account, your e-penis is bigger. My extremist blog: www.extremecapitalists.com slave Member Posts: 1,136 Kudos: 0 Free OS-X « Reply #6 on: 12 August 2002, 21:53 » Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't) Logged woodland@bayou.com smokey Member Posts: 183 Kudos: 0 Free OS-X « Reply #7 on: 13 August 2002, 03:06 » Quote from: slave Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't) You are right except the part of BSD which as you say "stole" was released back to the public as open source here http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ « Last Edit: 7 February 2008, 14:29 by Orethrius » Logged //this is how I was born cat /dev/urandom > /dev/mybrain Tip for win98 (l)users: type copy /con/con in your command prompt to increase stability Kintaro Member Posts: 6,539 Kudos: 254 Greed is the sole driver of human progress Free OS-X « Reply #8 on: 13 August 2002, 13:34 » Quote from: slave Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't) No your the fool, what im saying is make a free OS-X you dumb evil fuck! « Last Edit: 7 February 2008, 14:29 by Orethrius » Logged Refalm rules with a broken fist! Your Internet needs You: http://tmrepository.com/ My shitty website: www.johntate.org Ever been geeky enough to be able to talk on finch over ssh? With a www.fawltyservers.com shell account, your e-penis is bigger. My extremist blog: www.extremecapitalists.com the_black_angel Member Posts: 82 Kudos: 0 Free OS-X « Reply #9 on: 13 August 2002, 18:47 » get the x86 version of darwin or GNU-darwin and install x-windows and your favourite manager. Then set up an aqua theme [ August 13, 2002: Message edited by: the_black_angel ] « Last Edit: 7 February 2008, 14:30 by Orethrius » Logged -- The Black Angel psyjax VIP Posts: 1,871 Kudos: 55 Free OS-X « Reply #10 on: 13 August 2002, 22:21 » Quote from: Calum Re: MaCOSX, is it free? or does it officially cost? what versions of macos are free and so on for if you were to buy a second hand mac and want to put a different macOS on it from the one it comes with? anybody know? (and did i ask this before? doh!) Mac OS 7.5 and bellow are absolutely free. Mac OSX's core, darwin is free and open source, the GUI/system is really what you pay for when you buy OSX. OSX comes free with every Mac. « Last Edit: 7 February 2008, 14:31 by Orethrius » Logged Psyjax! I RULEZZZZ!!! HAR HAR HAR Kintaro Member Posts: 6,539 Kudos: 254 Greed is the sole driver of human progress Free OS-X « Reply #11 on: 16 August 2002, 21:18 » Yes but macs are the best computers for stupid people. Somthing like the mac but UNIX based (Like OS-X) For example have a fake filesystem... Really all the software is installed in the /usr/share but to the user its just an icon in a menu that can be right clicked and uninstalled. Simple stuff like that! Logged Refalm rules with a broken fist! Your Internet needs You: http://tmrepository.com/ My shitty website: www.johntate.org Ever been geeky enough to be able to talk on finch over ssh? With a www.fawltyservers.com shell account, your e-penis is bigger. My extremist blog: www.extremecapitalists.com choasforages VIP Posts: 1,729 Kudos: 7 Free OS-X « Reply #12 on: 17 August 2002, 01:48 » kde with mosfets liquid theme. that would work great Logged x86: a hack on a hack of a hackway alpha, hewlett packed it A-way ppc: the fruity way mips: the graphical way sparc: the sunny way 4:20.....forget the DMCA for a while!!! Kintaro Member Posts: 6,539 Kudos: 254 Greed is the sole driver of human progress Free OS-X « Reply #13 on: 17 August 2002, 06:52 » Its not how it looks, its feel. Gnome, Kde, and the rest are UNIX styled. Start from scratch... Logged Refalm rules with a broken fist! Your Internet needs You: http://tmrepository.com/ My shitty website: www.johntate.org Ever been geeky enough to be able to talk on finch over ssh? With a www.fawltyservers.com shell account, your e-penis is bigger. My extremist blog: www.extremecapitalists.com hm_murdock VIP Posts: 2,629 Kudos: 378 The Lord of Thyme Free OS-X « Reply #14 on: 28 September 2002, 14:57 » Here's what you do... Start with Darwin, build your own Display PostScript or Display PDF layer so that you can provide a Quartz-like graphics layer, then get a nice, cushy UI framework (KDE, Gnome, et cetera) and make said framework pervasive the way Aqua is with OS X. Remember, OS X isn't just X11 with a pretty window manager, it's a whole new graphics engine combined with the Carbon/Cocoa frameworks which handle all the UI stuff. Really, the graphics layer would be the fun part, after that, you'd just have to either adapt your framework to it, or design your graphics layer to emulate X11 calls. Fiddle around with OpenStep, or see if you can get your mits on Rhapsody and hack the holy living fuck out of it. If you could get some programmers together and make that work... actually pull off an open source implemenation of OS X, or something like it... you'd be the next Linus Torvalds! Logged Go the fuck ~ Print Pages: [1] 2 Go Up « previous next » Stop Microsoft » Forum » Operating Systems » Not Quite Mainstream OSes » Free OS-X
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