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neo_x500 · « **on:** 26 July 2002, 11:53 »

I just came across this great site about Microsoft, and how they managed to take over the computer market. It's kinda funny how it all happened really. http://www.vcnet.com/bms/features/serendipities.html
Basically, this site says that they got lucky, it was just a run of luck that put Microsoft in charge of what goes on our Boxes when they are shipped. Luck, and some extortion, and probably a little bribing. But if we are going to blame anyone, I know exactly who to blame, how about the people at an old company called CP/M, but by some fluke, they screwed up. Anyway, read the article, I'm sure that most of you knew this stuff anyway, but I thought it was a little interesting.

Master of Reality · « **Reply #1 on:** 26 July 2002, 12:18 »

There luck will have to run out some time.... wont it?

neo_x500 · « **Reply #2 on:** 26 July 2002, 12:25 »

Oh god I hope so. You've heard the phrase, right? you know, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. I'm starting to think that the public, as a whole, is a bunch of incompitent, morons. A person can be smart, but people are dumb, with all these news reports, you would think that Microsofts stock would drop like a led balloon. Oh well...

Master of Reality · « **Reply #3 on:** 26 July 2002, 12:28 »

you should become A Bob. The cult of Bob sounds perfect for you.

Calum · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 July 2002, 16:03 »

or maybe a Bokononist... Even better, become an integrational polytheist! Hey! that's a great idea! i think i will start my religion online and have a website for integrational polytheism!!! wow!! (sorry i know that's really off topic, i'll shut up now.)

neo_x500 · « **Reply #5 on:** 28 July 2002, 04:30 »

Sorry, I'm Monotheist, and don't have any plans to change. Maybe if I pray hard enough, God will strike bill gates down with lightning. I would love to become a Bob, but unfortuneately I'm alergic to hampsters.

Sorry, but I like my ability to think for myself, that's kinda whats keeping me from joining those dumb people I was talking about. But I'll will say something- I am Bob:) lol. Anyway, if we stopped thinking, like you cult of Bob says to do, wouldn't that make it easier for Bill to take over?

saddlemagic · « **Reply #6 on:** 28 July 2002, 05:03 »

You could always join the Church of the SubGenius and become a follower of J.R. "Bob" Dobbs Jr.

http://www.subgenius.com/

Master of Reality · « **Reply #7 on:** 28 July 2002, 08:07 »

quote:
Originally posted by Neo:
Sorry, I'm Monotheist, and don't have any plans to change. Maybe if I pray hard enough, God will strike bill gates down with lightning. I would love to become a Bob, but unfortuneately I'm alergic to hampsters. Sorry, but I like my ability to think for myself, that's kinda whats keeping me from joining those dumb people I was talking about. But I'll will say something- I am Bob:) lol. Anyway, if we stopped thinking, like you cult of Bob says to do, wouldn't that make it easier for Bill to take over?

We would kill bill gates for he is not Bob.

neo_x500 · « **Reply #8 on:** 28 July 2002, 10:24 »

Yeah, but it's the thinking thing that bothers me, sure, it causes wars and death, but it is also what gives us the technology around us. Actually the problems are caused by people who suddenly stop thinking. Like the president, he uses his head to get into office, and when he gets there, he screws up. Now I know that he was a moron to begin with, but his plan wasn't completely thought out. Here is a question I have for you though, sure, the cult of bob would discriminate against all that aren't Bobs, and we would Kill Gates, but what if he became a Bob, then the biggest Monoply would still have power, and the Bob's would be helpless to stop it. Because they couldn't think for themselves, and, they would all be stuffed on hampsters. There are a few flaws to the plan. That's the problem with utopian societies, when the plan is written down on paper, it looks good. Like Communism, but there is always someone around, or something that screws it up. Take Russia, that was supposed to be a Utopian society, but Stalin ended up killing more people from starvation than Hitler did during the Holocost. The fact is that Utopias don't exist, not yet anyway. Maybe, someday, society can do something to remove all the corruption it has caused on itself. Killing off evil corporation owners like Bill Gates would help too.

lazygamer · « **Reply #9 on:** 29 July 2002, 19:02 »

quote:
The IBM design team knew immediately which operating
system it wanted for the new computer, then code-named
"Acorn." They wanted CP/M, a product of Gary Kildall's Digital Research, of Pacific Grove, California. But when IBM
first approached Digital Research, the company's founder
Gary Kildall was out of the office for the day. In his absence, Kildall's wife and business associates were
reluctant to sign the stringent IBM nondisclosure agreement.
The IBM representatives left the Digital Research offices without even divulging the purpose of their visit.

Luck indeed! Gary Kildall and/or his wife and associates unleashed a never ending chain of events. I wonder why they didn't just beg IBM that they would be making a huge mistake to go with anyone else, and that Gary Kildall would contact them back ASAP. Dammit, they coulda saved that day.

lazygamer · « **Reply #10 on:** 29 July 2002, 19:04 »

Oh wait, they never divulged the purpose of the buisness. So it's also IBM's fault too. Had they only told them why they had come. I mean im sure Gary could of contacted them within a day, a single day is hardly much time.

lazygamer · « **Reply #11 on:** 29 July 2002, 19:08 »

quote:
So great was the pin-striper's confidence in IBM that
they were prepared to buy into MS-DOS, even though this
awkward and archaic method of running a computer was clearly
inspired more by the past than by any vision for the future.

Awkward and archaic? Well maybe to a n00b, but don't command line systems offer the highest capability for resource and power efficiency, due to their simplicity?

lazygamer · « **Reply #12 on:** 29 July 2002, 19:16 »

WOW! Great article! One thing that seems wierd though, how is it Microsoft suceeded through pure luck? If there was 1000 other Microsoft wannabes who died, then I can understand. Problem is, MS was likely more of an exception then a rule. Most companies are COMPETENT! It seems wierd that ONE out of ONE(instead of one 1 of 1000) can pull off all this luck.

badkarma · « **Reply #13 on:** 29 July 2002, 19:20 »

not if it's a single user, single tasking OS with a horrible command line interface .....

lazygamer · « **Reply #14 on:** 29 July 2002, 19:35 »

quote:
not if it's a single user, single tasking OS with a horrible command line interface .....

Ok, but if it was DOS capable of using modern technology or ancient technology, multi-tasking, multi-user piece of technology totally untouched by Microsoft? Then would it be the best you can get for simplicity, power, fixability, and stability?

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(I am a cheese omlette) Master of Reality VIP Posts: 4,249 Kudos: 177 Who is to blame? « Reply #1 on: 26 July 2002, 12:18 » There luck will have to run out some time.... wont it? Logged Disorder \| Rating Paranoid: Moderate Schizoid: Moderate Linux User #283518 'It takes more than a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head to stop Bob' neo_x500 Member Posts: 72 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #2 on: 26 July 2002, 12:25 » Oh god I hope so. You've heard the phrase, right? you know, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. I'm starting to think that the public, as a whole, is a bunch of incompitent, morons. A person can be smart, but people are dumb, with all these news reports, you would think that Microsofts stock would drop like a led balloon. Oh well... Logged Je suis une omlette du fromage. (I am a cheese omlette) Master of Reality VIP Posts: 4,249 Kudos: 177 Who is to blame? « Reply #3 on: 26 July 2002, 12:28 » you should become A Bob. The cult of Bob sounds perfect for you. Logged Disorder \| Rating Paranoid: Moderate Schizoid: Moderate Linux User #283518 'It takes more than a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head to stop Bob' Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 Who is to blame? « Reply #4 on: 26 July 2002, 16:03 » or maybe a Bokononist... Even better, become an integrational polytheist! Hey! that's a great idea! i think i will start my religion online and have a website for integrational polytheism!!! wow!! (sorry i know that's really off topic, i'll shut up now.) Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism neo_x500 Member Posts: 72 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #5 on: 28 July 2002, 04:30 » Sorry, I'm Monotheist, and don't have any plans to change. Maybe if I pray hard enough, God will strike bill gates down with lightning. I would love to become a Bob, but unfortuneately I'm alergic to hampsters. Sorry, but I like my ability to think for myself, that's kinda whats keeping me from joining those dumb people I was talking about. But I'll will say something- I am Bob:) lol. Anyway, if we stopped thinking, like you cult of Bob says to do, wouldn't that make it easier for Bill to take over? Logged Je suis une omlette du fromage. (I am a cheese omlette) saddlemagic Member Posts: 43 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #6 on: 28 July 2002, 05:03 » You could always join the Church of the SubGenius and become a follower of J.R. "Bob" Dobbs Jr. http://www.subgenius.com/ Logged Bitter? I'm not bitter. After seeing what Bill Gates and MicroSoft has inflicted upon us. I wish Bill would choke on a cheese sandwich and put us out of his misery. Master of Reality VIP Posts: 4,249 Kudos: 177 Who is to blame? « Reply #7 on: 28 July 2002, 08:07 » quote: Originally posted by Neo: Sorry, I'm Monotheist, and don't have any plans to change. Maybe if I pray hard enough, God will strike bill gates down with lightning. I would love to become a Bob, but unfortuneately I'm alergic to hampsters. Sorry, but I like my ability to think for myself, that's kinda whats keeping me from joining those dumb people I was talking about. But I'll will say something- I am Bob:) lol. Anyway, if we stopped thinking, like you cult of Bob says to do, wouldn't that make it easier for Bill to take over? We would kill bill gates for he is not Bob. Logged Disorder \| Rating Paranoid: Moderate Schizoid: Moderate Linux User #283518 'It takes more than a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head to stop Bob' neo_x500 Member Posts: 72 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #8 on: 28 July 2002, 10:24 » Yeah, but it's the thinking thing that bothers me, sure, it causes wars and death, but it is also what gives us the technology around us. Actually the problems are caused by people who suddenly stop thinking. Like the president, he uses his head to get into office, and when he gets there, he screws up. Now I know that he was a moron to begin with, but his plan wasn't completely thought out. Here is a question I have for you though, sure, the cult of bob would discriminate against all that aren't Bobs, and we would Kill Gates, but what if he became a Bob, then the biggest Monoply would still have power, and the Bob's would be helpless to stop it. Because they couldn't think for themselves, and, they would all be stuffed on hampsters. There are a few flaws to the plan. That's the problem with utopian societies, when the plan is written down on paper, it looks good. Like Communism, but there is always someone around, or something that screws it up. Take Russia, that was supposed to be a Utopian society, but Stalin ended up killing more people from starvation than Hitler did during the Holocost. The fact is that Utopias don't exist, not yet anyway. Maybe, someday, society can do something to remove all the corruption it has caused on itself. Killing off evil corporation owners like Bill Gates would help too. Logged Je suis une omlette du fromage. (I am a cheese omlette) lazygamer Member Posts: 1,146 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #9 on: 29 July 2002, 19:02 » quote: The IBM design team knew immediately which operating system it wanted for the new computer, then code-named "Acorn." They wanted CP/M, a product of Gary Kildall's Digital Research, of Pacific Grove, California. But when IBM first approached Digital Research, the company's founder Gary Kildall was out of the office for the day. In his absence, Kildall's wife and business associates were reluctant to sign the stringent IBM nondisclosure agreement. The IBM representatives left the Digital Research offices without even divulging the purpose of their visit. Luck indeed! Gary Kildall and/or his wife and associates unleashed a never ending chain of events. I wonder why they didn't just beg IBM that they would be making a huge mistake to go with anyone else, and that Gary Kildall would contact them back ASAP. Dammit, they coulda saved that day. Logged For every hot Lesbian you see in a porno video, there is a fat, butch-like, or just downright ugly lesbian beeyotch marching in a gay pride parade, or bitching about same sex marriages. -Lazygamer on homosexuality lazygamer Member Posts: 1,146 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #10 on: 29 July 2002, 19:04 » Oh wait, they never divulged the purpose of the buisness. So it's also IBM's fault too. Had they only told them why they had come. I mean im sure Gary could of contacted them within a day, a single day is hardly much time. Logged For every hot Lesbian you see in a porno video, there is a fat, butch-like, or just downright ugly lesbian beeyotch marching in a gay pride parade, or bitching about same sex marriages. -Lazygamer on homosexuality lazygamer Member Posts: 1,146 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #11 on: 29 July 2002, 19:08 » quote: So great was the pin-striper's confidence in IBM that they were prepared to buy into MS-DOS, even though this awkward and archaic method of running a computer was clearly inspired more by the past than by any vision for the future. Awkward and archaic? Well maybe to a n00b, but don't command line systems offer the highest capability for resource and power efficiency, due to their simplicity? Logged For every hot Lesbian you see in a porno video, there is a fat, butch-like, or just downright ugly lesbian beeyotch marching in a gay pride parade, or bitching about same sex marriages. -Lazygamer on homosexuality lazygamer Member Posts: 1,146 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #12 on: 29 July 2002, 19:16 » WOW! Great article! One thing that seems wierd though, how is it Microsoft suceeded through pure luck? If there was 1000 other Microsoft wannabes who died, then I can understand. Problem is, MS was likely more of an exception then a rule. Most companies are COMPETENT! It seems wierd that ONE out of ONE(instead of one 1 of 1000) can pull off all this luck. Logged For every hot Lesbian you see in a porno video, there is a fat, butch-like, or just downright ugly lesbian beeyotch marching in a gay pride parade, or bitching about same sex marriages. -Lazygamer on homosexuality badkarma VIP Posts: 497 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #13 on: 29 July 2002, 19:20 » not if it's a single user, single tasking OS with a horrible command line interface ..... Logged If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly. lazygamer Member Posts: 1,146 Kudos: 0 Who is to blame? « Reply #14 on: 29 July 2002, 19:35 » quote: not if it's a single user, single tasking OS with a horrible command line interface ..... Ok, but if it was DOS capable of using modern technology or ancient technology, multi-tasking, multi-user piece of technology totally untouched by Microsoft? Then would it be the best you can get for simplicity, power, fixability, and stability? 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