John Tate says Microsoft Blows

[Calum]

Apparently microsoft was embarassed that it has paid to a third party to get the BSD stack?

they don't need to pay, they just need to include a copyright notice stating that the code was originally from the university of california.

that's the reason all the OSs use this (except linux), because it costs nothing to do so.

[muzzy]

they don't need to pay, they just need to include a copyright notice stating that the code was originally from the university of california.

that's the reason all the OSs use this (except linux), because it costs nothing to do so.

Yes, but they bought the stack from Spider (or something, google it up), and got a modified BSD stack. They could've gotten pretty much the same thing for free, but they actually paid for it. Then they rewrote the damn thing.

[muzzy]

The apps like ftp.exe on windows came from that deal, too, and they still contain the notice string. IIRC the license no longer requires the string to be present in binary, though.

[Kintaro]

Linux has better networking support then any other personally.

[muzzy]

Linux has better networking support then any other personally.

iptables+tc is indeed something I'd love to see in windows. For a traffic shaping box, I don't really know of any alternative OS to linux. Hopefully such facilities will eventually become available to Windows as well as other operating systems.

[Calum]

i'd agree with that.

[Kintaro]

I have no further arguement with Muzzy, he is right and, Seig Heil.