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Kintaro · « **Reply #90 on:** 23 August 2005, 06:37 »

Quote from: worker201

Nice work, Jim!

Of course not everyone has Void Main to help them out. Or, more to the point, not everyone realises that there are great knowledgeable helpers like Void Main out there. Really, Linux is like having 5 or 6 personal advisors for every program on my computer! If you get into the community and report bugs and ask questions and watch mailing lists, you'll be Linuxized in no time at all. As I have said before, the learning curve of Linux is only a problem to the stupid and lazy.

Personally I don't believe in stupid. I think people are just not interested or lazy. Nobody is born stupid, its a choice.

Jenda · « **Reply #91 on:** 23 August 2005, 18:27 »

Interesting thought. I myself believe strongly in "choice", in most of life's matters. To this day, it has been mostly spiritual strength and disease resistance (immune system). As for actual capabilities - I'm not decided yet.

But then, if you said a person can choose whether or not they behave stupidly, whether or not they can think logically, WON they can think in abstract meanings, WONTC do what others can't - where is the boundary between all that and deciding who you are born? Where you are born? What (species, race, class) you are born into?

Calum · « **Reply #92 on:** 23 August 2005, 22:09 »

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Will you ever go back to M$ OS?

nope.

why would i?
why would anybody even ask this?

worker201 · « **Reply #93 on:** 23 August 2005, 23:54 »

Quote from: kintaro

Personally I don't believe in stupid. I think people are just not interested or lazy. Nobody is born stupid, its a choice.

1. Your theory is cute, but you have to admit that there is a difference between my brain and Einstein's brain. Compared to him, we all look like idiots.

2. Stupid was perhaps the wrong word there. But it seemed more concise than "unable to properly adapt to a new environment". Grandpa and Grandma aren't going to be able to grasp Linux. My dad can barely manage Windows. Christ, there are professors here that can't even manage OSX - that's scary! And one professor doesn't even have a computer. He just completed a 650 page book - on a typewriter! None of these people I mention are stupid - in fact, most of them are geniuses. But they will forever be computer illiterate. They just aren't mentally prepared for an electronic environment. Us somewhat younger folks, we get exposed earlier, and take to it better.

This raises an interesting question - there are people alive right now who have never known a world without Windows. Will they on the whole be more creative with computers, since they have always been around? Or will they be more boring with computers, since they are so commonplace? Only time will tell.

Refalm · « **Reply #94 on:** 24 August 2005, 01:19 »

From what I experienced, people don't want to change anything.

Take Firefox for example. It's better and faster, and it's fully usable by IE users, in the most scariest detail.

Still, people fear changing anything on their computer.

Jenda · « **Reply #95 on:** 24 August 2005, 18:14 »

Quote from: Refalm

From what I experienced, people don't want to change anything.

Take Firefox for example. It's better and faster, and it's fully usable by IE users, in the most scariest detail.

Still, people fear changing anything on their computer.

That's true. Any good arguments I could use to convince my father? (apart from being faster, better etc.)

piratePenguin · « **Reply #96 on:** 24 August 2005, 18:49 »

Quote from: Jenda

That's true. Any good arguments I could use to convince my father? (apart from being faster, better etc.)

Freedom. :thumbup:

I actually never mention "freedom" whenever I'm talking about GNU to non-techies, I just say "It's only right.", "Microsoft are only interested in money, not making good software.", etc.

skyman8081 · « **Reply #97 on:** 24 August 2005, 19:24 »

If he is fine with Windows, why FORCE him to change?

Jenda · « **Reply #98 on:** 24 August 2005, 19:26 »

Freedom in software is a concept most people outside the alternative-OS world will not understand easily.

Kintaro · « **Reply #99 on:** 24 August 2005, 19:59 »

Hrm.

Personally I don't try to convince anyone that GNU/Linux is the best operating system for them. Because: a) I am and elitest prick and I hate n00bs enough already without them phoning me with their Linux problems. b) It isn't the best operating system. c) It is up to them to goto the newsagents and buy a book explaining how to install and use a Linux system with a free copy of Fedora Core with it. Hell thats exactly how I got into Linux, I got one of those n00b books from the newsagents.

If people want to use Linux they can do it on their fucking own. I am willing to answer questions I see, as long as they arn't completely retarded, then I just ignore them.

piratePenguin · « **Reply #100 on:** 25 August 2005, 00:00 »

Quote from: skyman8081

If he is fine with Windows, why FORCE him to change?

Are we forcing him? No, we're trying to convince him.

What the fuck is it with some ppl here?

MarathoN · « **Reply #101 on:** 25 August 2005, 02:28 »

I think stupidity is a comparison, not a truth.

Jenda · « **Reply #102 on:** 25 August 2005, 18:07 »

I once heard: Everything is relative, just stupidity is absolute...

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Christ, there are professors here that can't even manage OSX - that's scary! And one professor doesn't even have a computer. He just completed a 650 page book - on a typewriter! None of these people I mention are stupid - in fact, most of them are geniuses. But they will forever be computer illiterate. They just aren't mentally prepared for an electronic environment. Us somewhat younger folks, we get exposed earlier, and take to it better. This raises an interesting question - there are people alive right now who have never known a world without Windows. Will they on the whole be more creative with computers, since they have always been around? Or will they be more boring with computers, since they are so commonplace? Only time will tell. Logged Refalm Administrator Posts: 5,163 Kudos: 704 Sjembek! Re: Will you ever go back to M$ OS? « Reply #94 on: 24 August 2005, 01:19 » From what I experienced, people don't want to change anything. Take Firefox for example. 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Because: a) I am and elitest prick and I hate n00bs enough already without them phoning me with their Linux problems. b) It isn't the best operating system. c) It is up to them to goto the newsagents and buy a book explaining how to install and use a Linux system with a free copy of Fedora Core with it. Hell thats exactly how I got into Linux, I got one of those n00b books from the newsagents. If people want to use Linux they can do it on their fucking own. I am willing to answer questions I see, as long as they arn't completely retarded, then I just ignore them. Logged Refalm rules with a broken fist! Your Internet needs You: http://tmrepository.com/ My shitty website: www.johntate.org Ever been geeky enough to be able to talk on finch over ssh? With a www.fawltyservers.com shell account, your e-penis is bigger. 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