Linsux and Winbloze - There is no decent operating system for the PC!

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by Aloone:
insomnia you cheap arse!

When you pay for software you pay for the developmant costs, ie the software engineers time. Because of this you often get a better product in the end.

Some free softare sucks and the proprietary equivalent is good, for example:

Microsoft Equation Editor (came with "     M$ Works     " OEM install on my PC) is good. (well they did buy it from Design Science Inc.)

The open source equivalent OpenOffice.org Math sucks horribly.

Equation Editor is compatable with OpenOffice.org too, and it't the only reason why I keep my "     M$ Works     " CD.

Also how many good open source games are there?
Perhaps someone should write some.

And there is some open source payware available, ever heard of Red Hat Linux, Linspire, or  evan Mac OSX?

Not all developers are geeks like yourself who program just because they have nothing else better to do!

[ June 30, 2004: Message edited by: Aloone ]

Why wasting time on people who post stupid crap like that.
Ban this jerk.

[Stilly]

quote:Originally posted by insomnia:



Why wasting time on people who post stupid crap like that.
Ban this jerk.

ban him?

why?

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by The Stiller:

ban him?

why?

Posting wrong facts.
Insulting people who even tried to help him.
Making these forums look childish.

Do you think any other forum whould accept his behaviour?

Ps: Bin this topic.

[ June 30, 2004: Message edited by: insomnia ]

[WMD]

He's not acting out.  He's saying things you disagree with.

Stop it yourself.

[insomnia]

So the "arse" thing was meant funny? (I stopped reading after that.)

Oh well, maybe you're right.

[hm_murdock]

I can see both your points.... well, not really.

Aloone, don't be so boorish and rude. What the hell did insomnia say to make you mouth off like that?

So, you guys simmer.

everybody else, come to my forums

http://jimmyjames.sytes.net/forum/

[Aloone_Jonez]

insomnia, I wasn't having a go, I just disagree with you. You really need to lighten up. I'm very suprised that the insults in my post upset you, when you post lame insults like this:

 

quote:
Lol
You're truly retarted.

Get a working linux system and stop acting like a stupid kid.
(or buy a PS2)
   

The piss poor insults didn't bother me, the only thing that did is that you only read my first post and then jumped to the wrong conclusion.

However I admit I've also done wrong by only reading half of your post, however I wish to make mends by responding to it:

 

quote: About the kernel compiling in GNU/Linux, any newbie can do this. Try the newbie forum from LQ, people ask those questions all the time and they always get help. You don't even have to understand what you're doing.

Thanks for your advice I will check it out when I have finished this mass of college work that needs to by handed in two weeks time.

[Claris]

quote:Originally posted by Aloone:

What do you mean?
I'm surprised that people here at http://forum.microsuck.com are so against silly nicknames for Microsoft products!
Perhaps this site should be in for another name change!

Oh well if you people hate them so much, I will try to refrain from using them, It has become a habit though. I find myself using them in college work.

We usually don't care unless you use them every sentence, like you did.

[Refalm]

quote:insomnia: So the "arse" thing was meant funny? (I stopped reading after that.)

Oh well, maybe you're right.

Niet iedereen is slim genoeg of vrije software te gebruiken, er zijn nog steeds sukkels die slechtere zooi kopen, terwijl het v

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by Refalm:


Niet iedereen is slim genoeg of vrije software te gebruiken, er zijn nog steeds sukkels die slechtere zooi kopen, terwijl het v

[WMD]

Not again!  

 

quote:Not everyone is malignant enough or uses free software, there are still suckers who buy worse (zooi), whereas the (v

[Aloone_Jonez]

I really can't be bothered to argue about Freeware vs Payware I wish I had never started the argument, as I didn't want this to turn into a troll thread.

Anyway I've managed to increase the speed of Linux to some degree by cutting down on the eye candy, now I now only use 2 effects:
Show window contents while resizing.
Use anti-alised fonts.

Now Linux runs at the same speed as Xpee with all it's crap effects on.

 

quote:"the generic S3 driver is probably your best bet"

I have done some research and hardware support seems to be a real problem in Linux, I dosen't suport half the hardware that windows does.      Unfortunately I will continue to use windows, at least for now.

There must be a work around to allow Linux to use Windows drivers, I know it can't be done with WINE, but the Captive project got me thinking.

Cheak it out:
http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive

It's way of using the windows NTFS.SYS driver file to give Linux read/write access to NTFS partitions, it's based on React OS -  http://www.reactos.com - a free windows NT kernel clone.

If this can allow Linux to use the M$ Windows NTFS driver, then perhaps a Linux wrapper could also written for an NT printer or Winmodem driver. I am no professional programmer, I do know some Basic and 80386 assembler (NASM) though, so I would love to hear from anyone who's interested in such a project.

I personaly think the people at React OS are doing a good job, but they should realy be working on the WINE project rather than wasting their time on this.

[WMD]

quote:There must be a work around to allow Linux to use Windows drivers

Indeed!  Linuxant  has a wrapper for Windows wifi drivers.  It doesn't work with USB ones (like mine  :mad:  ) but there's definately a market for this.  WINE is a program/API emulator, there's no driver code there.  WinModem drivers would be good, but as broadband takes over this will matter less over time.

The only problem is, how good ARE Windows drivers, and how would they affect overall stability?

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by WMD:
Not sure of the rest, but that's roughly what he said.    

Not even close.
   

 

quote: I wish I had never started the argument, as I didn't want this to turn into a troll thread.

You could change the title.

 

quote:Anyway I've managed to increase the speed of Linux to some degree by cutting down on the eye candy, now I now only use 2 effects:
Show window contents while resizing.
Use anti-alised fonts.

Now Linux runs at the same speed as Xpee with all it's crap effects on.

That's normal.
Gnome and KDE have just as much eye candy.

Give xfce4 a try.
Install it via apt/synaptic.
It looks like GNOME but is way faster (and just as easy)

 

quote:here must be a work around to allow Linux to use Windows drivers

http://linmodems.org/
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Winmodems-and-Linux-HOWTO-1.html

[Werre]

Insomnia, openoffices equation editor is hardly "the open source equivalent" to M$ offices one... Try "LyX", it has the best equation editor ever (hardly surprising, since LyX is basicly What-you-get-is-what-you-WANT-interface on top of LaTeX, which happens to be very good in handling equations).
That said, even the openoffices equation editor is quite usable for small stuff, it's just not as visual as the M$ one.