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Google knuckles under to Chinese Censorship

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hm_murdock:
China doesn't have a government. They have an organization designed to make sure that it does what it was designed to do... which is to make sure that it does what it was designed to do... infinite loop. It has no real purpose. It's just that things like "prosperity" are required for it to continue doing what it was designed to do.

worker201:

--- Quote from: hm_murdock ---China doesn't have a government. They have an organization designed to make sure that it does what it was designed to do... which is to make sure that it does what it was designed to do... infinite loop. It has no real purpose. It's just that things like "prosperity" are required for it to continue doing what it was designed to do.
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"The purpose of the state is the preservation of the state" - I don't know who said it first, but I first heard it from Kirkpatrick Sale.

But what is any different between that and the US government?  The US and China both have propaganda systems so deeply placed that they aren't even conscious anymore, both have a government so overloaded and bureaucratic that it can't even protect its citizens from a disastrous flood, and both control access to resources to ensure the continued existence of the working class.  As I see it, the only difference is that the American people lie to themselves that they have total freedom, when what they really have is a cage that lets in a lot of sunlight.  In this respect, the Chinese are more honest about what they have.

Of course, I've never been to China, and I wouldn't trust any reports on conditions there from either side.  So if the Chinese can only lie about the state of things in China, and the US can only lie the other direction about the state of things in China, then what exactly is getting censored here?

As it turns out, I don't have much of a point.  Consider these nothing more than talkpoints.

inane:
What I was led to believe when this story first came to my attention was that Google did this because the Chinese government was completely blocking their site. Within just over a month Sergei had made an agreement with the government. Google wasn't the only search engine banned. The Chinese still can't access Yahoo or Altavista.

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