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OT: What should happen to Moussaoui?

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Laukev7:

--- Quote ---I don't see the connection to the Reichstag feuer. I agree that the US fucked up with the Afghan rebels who eventually turned on the US, but saying that Bush planned 911 is taking it too far out of context.
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The point I was making here was not that 9/11 was staged by the US government. What interests me here is Marinus van der Lubbe, who was known to be mentally unstable (like Moussaoui) and to take the blame for things that he did not commit, and was an active communist found at a convenient location. Regardless of whether you believe that 9/11 was staged or not (and there is a wealth of evidence to support that view), it could well be that Moussaoui is a patsy. Many innocent people who are held at Guantanamo Bay have been accused of being terrorists following confessions made under torture. The Bush regime needs to legitimise its war on terror, and they will pin the blame on anyone they can find to justify their agenda.

mobrien_12:
I saw an interview with his flight instructor.

The guy enrolled in flight school out of nowhere.  He had no experience.  He told them he wanted to be able to say he could fly a 747 to imress his friends.   He told an obvious lie about his job (don't remember what it was, but hw would have had to have excellent English to be able to do it, which he didn't).  He walked into the school and paid his entire tuition up front with thousands of dollars of cash.  His instructors were suspicious from the start.

During his first two days of training he asked questions like what circuit breakers would he have to pull to disable the airplanes radio transponder (the thing that makes the aircraft easy to track by air traffic controllers) and how to shut the oxygen flow off to the passenger cabin.  

At that point, both his  instructor and the owner of the school independently decided this guy was a threat and called the FBI before he learned enough to be dangerous.  The instructor told the FBI that the 747 was a big massive aircraft with an enormous amount of jet fuel and could cause a lot of damage if crashed in a populated area.

The FBI was there the next morning.  He was not a rich business man.  He was in the country illegally.  He had ties to terrorist networks.  They locked his ass up.  A few months later, the Pentagon and the Twin Towers were hit.  

This man was no Marinus Van der Lubbe.

Laukev7:
Marinus van der Lubbe was a known Communist activist, not just an innocent bystander. He had been involved in strikes and arrested before. Like Moussaoui he was known for his lack of experience, and back in those days, communism was the big scare touted by the Nazis in Germany.

The fact that Moussaoui's attempts were so transparent as you describe makes it all the more suspicious that the alleged hijackers were able to pull off the attacks. Either they got a lot of help, or Moussaoui was set up, much like Marinus probably was.

In any case, regardless of one's point of view on 9/11, it is clear that both Marinus and Moussaoui were useful idiots.

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