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Dark_Me:

--- Quote from: Vanessa ---I started this thread cause I just had to know what others thought about it and if it's actually even possible to do those stuff she described has happened to her computers.
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Put simply, no. It is not possible to hack a computer with radio waves or any kind of waves. It is possible to induce a current into just about anything conductive you'd care to name but not for said object (in this case a computer) to transmit any sort of signal. Something like that would be far more useful for frying electronics from a distance.

--- Quote from: Vanessa ---Did you all catch the thing about the computer beeing unplugged and still hacked? How is that possible? She says it was bought new and still in the box and when she plugged it in for the first time it was already hacked...?
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Unless someone had prior access to her computer and knew she was going to buy it it's not.

--- Quote from: Vanessa ---I admit it sounds unlikely and more like a conspiracy theory but can't there be any truth behind her statements? I mean we have technology to control a satellite thousands of miles away in space from earth, so how can't it be possible to control a computer on earth?
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Satellites that are designed to be controlled and have recevers and transmitters. And we can control a computer on Earth  from a distance. Just not while it's turned off and not connected to a network.

H_TeXMeX_H:

--- Quote from: Vanessa ---Did you all catch the thing about the computer beeing unplugged and still hacked? How is that possible? She says it was bought new and still in the box and when she plugged it in for the first time it was already hacked...?

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If it had Window$ and/or a root kit installed on it then yes it could have been considered already hacked.

Refalm:

--- Quote from: Vanessa ---I mean Refalm; you say it's possible to send and receive files thru radio and that you've actually done that...how? I'm not asking you to describe it fully detailed but breifly or maybe give me some links about it?
I'd really appriciate it.
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Well, have you ever listened to the noise you get when you're using a dial-up connection?
What if you'd send that noise over amateur radio to another computer?

I was 14 when I was doing this, so I'm not entirely sure what software I used.

Orethrius:
I re-read the Wikipedia article on modems to find the brand-name behind the CAT acoustically-coupled modem.  All-in-all, it was a rather enlightening read.  Here is my response to the replies thus far.

Aloone:
Isn't TexMex actually right on track by implying that the magnetron would sooner degauss your PC's data drives than compromise electronic security measures?

Refalm:

--- Quote from: Refalm ---Although it's possible to send and receive files thru radio (actually done that), you'd need special hardware and software.
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Yes, it's somewhere along the same line of thought as acoustic modulation.


--- Quote from: Refalm ---This guy is simply nuts. He thinks DirectX graphics aren't from Microsoft, and hackers put effort in placing a few pictures on his computer, that Debian is spying on us, that a NX connection wizard is meant to hack other computers, etc.
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I think that this guy [sic] just basically misunderstands the concepts involved in operating a system, let alone compromising one.  As for her possible neuroses, I dare not delve into those without a personal encounter.


--- Quote from: Refalm ---It's the kind of person that doesn't receive sun light on a daily basis, lives in some shitty apartment in a major city, and in general doesn't have anything other to do than cooking up conspiracy theories.
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...or the kind of person that saw The Net, Sneakers, Hackers, The Matrix (and so on) a few too many times and found her sense of reason compromised by a terror stirred by a profound misunderstanding of technologies as they exist today.

Vanessa:
I would take what the author says with about a truckload of salt.  For the most part, Dark_Me has addressed the various flaws with her rationale.  However...

Dark_Me:

--- Quote from: Dark_Me ---Unless someone had prior access to her computer and knew she was going to buy it it's not.
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A number of unpatched systems leave worldwide retailers everyday.  It's not wholly improbable that she hit a bad sequence of events, culminating in her system being one of the many unpatched Windows systems compromised mere seconds from being connected to a public network.  Other than that, though, I can't help but feel that she has direly misunderstood the purpose of half the software out there.

Refalm:
Also, I remember something very interesting from when I was 11.

Remember how Commodore 64's used tapes to load programs?
Well, I had an amateur radio transmitter (broken now) and I transmitted Donkey Kong, Jumpman, Tobbler, etc. over FM (yes, right in between Veronica FM and Radio 538 :)), so that my friends could record it on tape and play it on their Commodore 64's.

Basically, it's the same concept as sending data thru amateur radio.

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