Dell is on fire

[solemnwarning]

how could they shoot in a plane?

I think he means they would shoot the plane down

[mobrien_12]

No.  You can shoot in a plane.  During all the skyjackings in the 1970's, a special slug was developed for the sky marshalls called the Glaser Safety Slug.  

Here is the Wikipedia article:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug

Basically, it will produce large shallow wounds, but it fragments easily and has very low penetration.  It goes through prison mattresses and thick clothing, but not things like drywall.  You could shoot it in an airplane without explosive decompression.

[H_TeXMeX_H]

Neat ... would be useful on a plane. Of course, they also have all sorts of non-lethal weapons like tazers and bean bags or rubber bullets (they might go through the wall of an aircraft ?)

[pofnlice]

Explosive decompression from a single bullet hole to a fueselage has been proven to be unfeasible. Several bullet holes also would not cause this as the preassure would have more escape routes, thus lessening the effect in a single area as well. You need cataclysmic structural failure to get explosive decompression....even then it's more like rapid decompression since the structurally sound bit fails and "falls out", it would resemble an explosion in appearance though.

It's still a neat thought though...

[Master of Reality]

how could they shoot in a plane?

over here in the modern world we have this neat thing called a firearm... it "shoots" projectiles out of it using "gunpowder".

Anyways, enough of patronizing calum :p
Would there really be "explosive" decompression with a 1cm hole in a commercial airliner... or is that just in movies?

[KernelPanic]

over here in the modern world we have this neat thing called a firearm... it "shoots" projectiles out of it using "gunpowder".

Anyways, enough of patronizing calum :p
Would there really be "explosive" decompression with a 1cm hole in a commercial airliner... or is that just in movies?

No, a plane is not airtight to begin with. It's ability to maintain pressure is merely for the systems to put in more air volume than they are losing.

A small bullet hole would just place slightly more stress on this system, cabin pressure would probably still be maintained. If not, the Pilot would be able to react and decend a few thousand feet to make up the difference.
If a window was hit I think it would be a similar situation but the Pilot would have to take quicker action and in-cabin masks would probably be triggered.

A more worrying problem would be if pneumatic or electrical subsytems were damaged, but this is why Marshalls use the sort of slug described above.

[Jack2000]

or they might use a big KNIFE !

hell why don't they ever have blades with them!?

[pofnlice]

because it is typically frowned upon to stab the bad guy....

The "glass" in an airliner window is not glass at all. In some cases it can even be stronger than parts of the fueselage. It's a polymer. Anyway, a shot to the glass would just make a neat little hole that would probably whistle through the double panes. You could plug it with your finger and have no fear of being sucked out. However, depending on altitude and airspeed, It could become a reasonably painfull exercise.

Explosive decompression without a b_mb is not feasible. However, it looks good in the movies.

I believe Calum did mean "shoot in a plane." Sky Marshals are armed with firearms inside a plane. If you catch a ride which has a destination of the USA or a Departure from The USA, there's a chance you have a Sky Marshal onboard, readuy to shoot the baddies if they act up. They are specially trained to do this and use typically special munitions.

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[worker201]

What about that gnarly scene from the end of Alien: Resurrection?  Would that be possible?

[pofnlice]

In a vaccum...hmmmmmm probably!

Leave it to you! Now you crack me up....


BTW, I do not recall ever having a nice apple in TEXAS either...But, oddly enough, Missouri had loads, especially granny smith! Yeah I know, that's in the other topic!

[Orethrius]

BTW, I do not recall ever having a nice apple in TEXAS either

Come to California, where the apples mutate so as to release endorphins that convince us they actually taste good.

[_kill__bill]

Just in movies. And video games.
You would have to have a bomb to get real explosive decompression. Unless you can manipulate space and time.

[H_TeXMeX_H]

Dell is recalling batteries for laptops cuz they were manufactured improperly by $ony.

https://www.dellbatteryprogram.com/

So it wasn't really Dell's fault ... it was $ony. Shit, and I have a $ony laptop. Hope they made the batteries properly, so far I've had no problems tho.

[piratePenguin]

It was Dell's fault for doing business with Sony



If you want a successful business, don't do business with Sony. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

[worker201]

Dell is recalling batteries for laptops cuz they were manufactured improperly by $ony.

https://www.dellbatteryprogram.com/

So it wasn't really Dell's fault ... it was $ony.

Apple recently recalled a shitload of batteries from iBook G4s and PowerBook G4s.  The manufacturer?  Sony.  Damn, those fuckers just cannot make batteries!