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« Reply #30 on: 22 October 2002, 07:06 »
Of course it's going to be faster because you're going to have to buy a new computer before you'll even be able to run it. Run a copy of Win98 on that Intel 4.8GHz and see how fast it runs.

And about those stupid "My Music" folders and the like. They should be labeled "M$ Music" because with Microsoft OSs, you don't own crap. I have a "My Operating System" folder on my system, something Microsoft will never have.
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« Reply #31 on: 22 October 2002, 08:57 »
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Originally posted by Zombie9920:


The main difference from seeing screenshots is the looks. I'm sure Longhorn will be more stable and faster than XP which is already fast and stable..plus I'm sure Longhorn will have a much larger built-in driver database(for those who don't like installing drivers).

Example of difference in looks.

XP's My Music Folder(taken from my system)

http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/waltw/XPmymusic.jpg

Longhorn's My Music Folder

http://www.xs4all.nl/~binkbv/lh/mymusic.gif

See how much better it looks, also notice how the side bar(for easy access to common tasks) is colorful and seemlesly blends in with the rest of the Window. It just looks nicer. The Display Properties looks alot nicer than the display properties in XP(and other older versions of Windows). The My Pictures folder looks better and so does the rest of the stuff in Longhorn so far.

When Longhorn goes gold I bet it will look completely different than it does now in the Alpha stage. It will probably look really kick ass when it is final.



I'm sure Longhorn will force you to play by the MPAA/RIAA's rules to.  That IS why its being made isn't it?  I don't really care how Longhorn looks, LINUX can be set to look however you want it to.  You can completely control how the desktop looks.  And no, longhorn will not be more stable than XP, M$'s goal with this is not to bring you a better computing experience, its only to control you more, even at the expense of what could be a better running system.  M$ realized that they don't need to make their OS any more stable.  All they have to do is say that its more stable and advertize it to death and many people

 
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I'm sure Longhorn will be more stable and faster than XP which is already fast and stable.



will believe it no matter how unreliable it is.  

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« Reply #32 on: 22 October 2002, 21:33 »
lol.....look how different the "My Music" folder looks. That tells you everything about an OS.....lol. Give me a break. Longhorn isnt due out for a few years and you think linux folks will be sitting still that whole time? If you havent noticed, new versions of linux distros come out all the time, with constant improvements on security, ease of use, and graphical user interface. KDE already has transparent menus and rounded windows, and so much more. Just remember that even if microsoft does come out with something in the gui that is really cool, nothing will stop us from copying it, and then giving it away for free......lol
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« Reply #33 on: 22 October 2002, 21:41 »
wow. i can hardly wait for that my music folder. (lie mode off)

? who cares about how some folder looks? 'My Music'? why not call it /home/zombie9920/mp3s/ ? OH YES! i forgot, you'll not be able to play mp3s with the next release of windows... oh well, that'll save you a bit of hard drive space.
also, i took a look at the new 'My Music folder, and apparently it looks like this:  
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The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Open the www.xs4all.nl home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
Click the  Back button to try another link.
Click  Search to look for information on the Internet.

HTTP 404 - File not found

i must say i'm really impressed with how it looks...
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« Reply #34 on: 22 October 2002, 23:16 »
Someone please explain to me why XP has Windows Media Player integrated into a folder. Give me a fucking break. The folder probably has IE integrated into it as well. Oh and dont forget that solitare is now an integral part of the OS and can not be removed.
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« Reply #35 on: 23 October 2002, 00:22 »
If Longhorn has this RIAA crap, I will probably not pir8 it and just stick with XP as my dual boot windows. Of course, this RIAA crap could be very shoddily implemented, and removable by a decent cracker. Isn't that illegal under the DMCA to remove RIAA stuff from a future OS? Well I live in Canada anyways, and it's very unlikely RIAA will charge the end user. Corps and governments find it easier(and safer) to attack at the source.

Did you know that Longhorn is named after a bar in Whistler which is in BC? Obviously Microsoft likes skiing and realizes BC r0x0rs. Should I be honored or disgusted at their precense though? Perhaps trips to the Vancouver weed dealers(and consumption of their purchase) gave them the bright idea to make higher quality wind0ze to compete with Linux. See, pot saved Microsoft!(it's true, you telling me you woulden't try a d00bie on frequent trips to and from BC?!)

I used to be sold on the merits of making massive profits(did you know that the Redhat founder has like 450 million dollars in Redhat stocks?) as "just how life works". Then I was converted. Now I recognize how great Linux is. To people who haven't mastered it yet, it seems over-hyped. I have hardly even became competent with it, yet I realize that having a hard time with Linux is actually the user's fault. Sounds like an MS thing to say? MS says that your system sucking ass is YOUR FAULT. I say Linux not doing everything you want exactly how want, now that is YOUR FAULT(thus, hit the Linux books to learn). Linux is more then willing to back you up with stability and such.

When you look at the principles of Open source, Free software, Linux's history etc. You start to realize just how wonderful an operating system built on these ideals must be. That's why it's important to stick with it.

Oh and Redhat8 is cool enough that I now proclaim it... PIMPHAT 8! It has been redeemed.
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« Reply #36 on: 23 October 2002, 21:20 »
Heh, I just watched the Longhorn preview video made by one of the few lucky people who has Longhorn(the guy is a member of Winbeta)...It looks nothing like XP. I'm still waiting on this Alpha to leak. Screw downloadig 3 680MB+ Linux ISO's when there will be 1 520MB ISO of a better OS(Longhorn) available soon. ;P

For those who want to see the Longhorn video you can get it at

http://www.fileconnect.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2514&mode=flat&order=0&thold=0 . You must have the DivX 5.02 codec installed on your system to watch the video(you can download the Codec for free at http://www.divx.com and it is available for MacOS, Linux and Windows platforms).

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« Reply #37 on: 23 October 2002, 21:26 »
Zombie, you are one sick individual. You should seek professional help as soon as possible. You've obviously been brain washed.
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« Reply #38 on: 23 October 2002, 21:30 »
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Originally posted by void main:
Zombie, you are one sick individual. You should seek professional help as soon as possible. You've obviously been brain washed.


Nope, I'm not brainwashed. I just know a bettor *looking* OS when I see it. Not only does Longhorn look better than Linux, but it will have the nice benefit of compatability w/all Win32 apps and games(unlike Linux). ;P

(EDIT)I also don't want to forget to mention that the better looking, more compatible OS is also smaller in size than the other OS.

[ October 23, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]


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« Reply #39 on: 23 October 2002, 21:40 »
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Originally posted by Zombie9920:
Nope, I'm not brainwashed. I just know a bettor *looking* OS when I see it. Not only does Longhorn look better than Linux, but it will have the nice benefit of compatability w/all Win32 apps and games(unlike Linux). ;P

(EDIT)I also don't want to forget to mention that the better looking, more compatible OS is also smaller in size than the other OS.



I suppose looks are a personal preference, and one I happen to disagree with you about. You only have one choice of GUI looks/operation with Windows if you don't like it you can change themes/skins but that's as far as you can go. You can't change the GUI. On Linux you have many choices of GUIs, most of them changable with themes just like Windows, but you can even go a step further if you have the knowlege. It is infinitly customizable as you have the source code.

As far as being compatible with Win32 programs, I don't see that as a good thing since I want all Win32 programs to die. And again you do not understand what an "OS" is. A "distro" is not an "OS". A distro is more than an OS. Just like what you get on the Windows CD is more than an OS.

However, on most distros you get "many" more extras above an beyond the OS that you could only dream of getting on the Windows CD. As we've been over countless times, on the Windows CD you do not get MS Office, MS SQL Server, MS Visual Studio, Several browsers, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Not only do you get the equivelant of those apps with a "distro" you get more than one choice of each. There are distros that fit most of that on one CD (see Knoppix), let M$ try and fit all of that on one CD.

Now, seek professional help, no one here wants your crazies.

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« Reply #40 on: 24 October 2002, 11:50 »
Diss the OS, not the games. It is disrespectful to label all these wonderful(there are alot of bad ones though)win32 computer games(or DOS games) as shit... just because they were made for a shit OS.

To hate Windows so much, that you hate all the games for it(regardless of quality if they were ported to another platform), just because they're for Windows, is taking anti-MS fanaticism too far(although fanaticism is still much better then any watered down MS opinions that have to be kept soft and subtle" due to where they're published)

Diss the OS, not the games. It is disrespectful to label all these wonderful(there are alot of bad ones though)win32 computer games(or DOS games) as shit... just because they were made for a shit OS.

 
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Nope, I'm not brainwashed. I just know a bettor *looking* OS when I see it. Not only does Longhorn look better than Linux, but it will have the nice benefit of compatability w/all Win32 apps and games(unlike Linux). ;P


LUCKY?! You do realize how shitty Wind0ze 9X was right? Imagine the BETA versions. These lucky people are testing a beta wind0ze.  :D

So imagine W9X shittyness on steroids.  
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« Reply #41 on: 24 October 2002, 12:27 »
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Originally posted by lazygamer:
Diss the OS, not the games. It is disrespectful to label all these wonderful(there are alot of bad ones though)win32 computer games(or DOS games) as shit... just because they were made for a shit OS.



Huh? Don't know if this is in response to my comment or not but I didn't say anything about games. I won't play them if they are Win32 only though. I'll play (and purchase) UT and Quake since they have Linux versions. As soon as the other game vendors come out with a port I might buy them too. I won't buy them if I have to play they through Wine, only if they have a native port.
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« Reply #42 on: 24 October 2002, 19:37 »
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LUCKY?! You do realize how shitty Wind0ze 9X was right? Imagine the BETA versions. These lucky people are testing a beta wind0ze.   :D  

So imagine W9X shittyness on steroids.    



Bleh, Betas of NT aren't so bad. I was using Windows XP when the first beta leaked(at that time it was known as Whistler). The only problem I ever experienced with betas of Whistler/XP were with Win2k SBLive! drivers(they caused the system to take 5 minutes to completely boot..I found a beta Live! driver that worked flawlessly with Whistler/XP and I stuck with it until XP RTM and new drivers hit the air). I tried those old Whistler and XP builds out after I got a SB Audigy and I found that the Win2K Audigy drivers didn't cause the grief the Live! drivers did. ;P
I didn't have problems with the Betas being unstable or crash happy(remember, those BEtas were built from the existing stable Win2K).

I'm sure that WHQL certified WinXP drivers will work fine with the betas of Longhorn.

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« Reply #43 on: 24 October 2002, 21:04 »
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Originally posted by Zombie9920:


Bleh, Betas of NT aren't so bad. I was using Windows XP when the first beta leaked(at that time it was known as Whistler). The only problem I ever experienced with betas of Whistler/XP were with Win2k SBLive! drivers(they caused the system to take 5 minutes to completely boot..I found a beta Live! driver that worked flawlessly with Whistler/XP and I stuck with it until XP RTM and new drivers hit the air). I tried those old Whistler and XP builds out after I got a SB Audigy and I found that the Win2K Audigy drivers didn't cause the grief the Live! drivers did. ;P
I didn't have problems with the Betas being unstable or crash happy(remember, those BEtas were built from the existing stable Win2K).

I'm sure that WHQL certified WinXP drivers will work fine with the betas of Longhorn.



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« Reply #44 on: 24 October 2002, 21:20 »
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am i wearing a t shirt that says 'I Care'?   :D  



Hey, I was simply stating that Beta NT OSes are not like Win9x on steroids(like lazy g said). If you don't care about what I have to say don't even bother with replying to me.  ;)