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Refalm:
The Labor Party has no capacity to respect rights, so eat them?

Kintaro:
Yeah, Australia has no bill of rights protecting the individual from mob rule (democracy) so you can invade us as well.

... and please do.

Interesting is that everyone bitches about Bush when it comes to the death of individual rights in America, they are all barking up the wrong tree. Bush wouldn't be able to do anything if the Supreme Court got off their lazy butts and did their job.

worker201:
Yer ARC article is a bit confused.  It specifically states that Iran has been a serious threat to the US for over 30 years.  Iran may have secretly funded terror operations in Beirut, there's plenty of evidence of that.  And if the evidence presented in that article is true, I can see how someone might think that Iran as a state was engaged in terrorist and insurgent training (although that isn't the only or most logical explanation for the events).  And Iran has definitely been talking some shit lately.

But what about the other side of the story?  Did US troops enter Iran right after the revolution, capturing their deposed leader and harboring him in the US as a fugitive?  Yes.  Did the US sell arms to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War, including chemical and toxic weapons?  Yes.  Were those weapons subsequently used to kill civilians in Iran?  Yes.  Is the AEC, in preventing Iran from developing nuclear power and possibly nuclear weapons, being ridiculously injust?  Yes.  Is it possible to develop large amounts of cheap electricity in a fast breeder reactor without harvesting the plutonium byproducts to make nuclear weapons?  Yes.  Has the US been the strongest supporter of sanctions against Iran for developing nuclear power plants?  Yes.

So who's threatening who?  There's a number of incidents based on hearsay and partial investigations that point to Iran being the bully.  And there's archives of well-publicized newspaper and television reports going back 30 years that point to the US being the bully.  Maybe the reason Iran feels threatened and is tempted to do something about it is that they have been threatened.

It would be cool if the US really did do invasions to correct serious human rights violations.  But we don't, and never have.  We secure resources, and only if the calculated risks are low enough.

Kintaro:
Even if this nuke plant can't make a proper nuclear bomb, the waste can still be used to make dirty bombs. I know the US didn't kill hundreds of innocent Iranian civilians, Iran did kill hundreds of innocent US civilians.

As far as I'm concerned the whole area should be invaded, Islam should be wiped off the face of the earth. Only I just can't trust Christian's to do it, because who will wipe them off the earth?

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