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« on: 6 January 2002, 19:09 »
I realize this is a little old but: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2761566,00.html

Hollywood is going Linux, Shrek was done on Linux machines and more big ones are converting...
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« Reply #1 on: 7 January 2002, 10:54 »
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« Reply #2 on: 7 January 2002, 19:36 »
quote:
Originally posted by VoidMain:
I realize this is a little old but: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2761566,00.html

Hollywood is going Linux, Shrek was done on Linux machines and more big ones are converting...



Ahh, I see I must be good enough for someone to impersonate.  Don't know who that VoidMain #274 is.

And they used Linux to create a lot of the special effects in "Titanic".
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« Reply #3 on: 13 January 2002, 04:27 »
quote:
Originally posted by VoidMain:
I realize this is a little old but: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2761566,00.html

Hollywood is going Linux, Shrek was done on Linux machines and more big ones are converting...



Hahaha lol
Shrek was done on Silicon Graphics workstations b/c if you own the dvd there is a special feature called "The tech of Shrek" and all the computers are running IRIX.  
Irix/SGI systems are built from the ground up for graphical work and I dont think Linux will ever become successful in that field.

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« Reply #4 on: 13 January 2002, 21:53 »
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Hahaha lol
Shrek was done on Silicon Graphics workstations b/c if you own the dvd there is a special feature called "The tech of Shrek" and all the computers are running IRIX.    
Irix/SGI systems are built from the ground up for graphical work and I dont think Linux will ever become successful in that field.



Actually I believe they used a combination of SGI and Linux clusters (as the articles state) but SGI probably paid them for not mentioning using Linux....  It's still UNIX. SGI *has* been the choice in this industry for a *long* time but you can get a lot more raw CPU power for rendering at much lower costs on Linux clusters.
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« Reply #5 on: 13 January 2002, 13:22 »
oops  

Many places that render alot of stuff (movies) are using Linux/Intel combos on rendering farms but all the graphical stuff (making not rendering) is done on SGI. In fact SGI's have coolness factor especially the o2 which I have one.  :D

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« Reply #6 on: 13 January 2002, 21:40 »
It's typical for Linux not to get any of the credit for several reasons.  In the old days and even to a large extent today, it's slipped in under the radar of high level management.

Take a shop that is near and dear to my heart (no need to mention names) that run ~100 high end Sun servers.  This shop also runs ~200 Linux servers in various supporting and front line roles.  There are several reasons that Linux was used in place of Sun or other commercial products in many instances:

1) Proof of concept for a project at little or no cost, which worked so well, just turned into production
2) No licensing hassles
3) No purchase orders required
4) Many times could not be done on commercial OS, or more difficult
5) Could be done immediately where commercial products take time (because of some of the above issues)
6) Can tailor the products to specific needs as source code is available
7) Support/Bug fixes handled easily and quickly (capable experienced system admin/programmers in house).

and more...

Having said that, this shop still does not use Linux exclusively because to upper level managers, spending money for projects and making them complex is "sexy" to them.  It gives them purpose and justification for their large salaries. There still are some canned commercial products that can be dropped in that are more appropriate and can run on high end Sun/HP/IBM/SGI platforms above what Intel can provide.  Of course Linux clusters are coming along and I see this need disappearing rapidly as in this Shrek example.  

Software is still an issue but as long as companies can see the above benefits they get the software vendors to port their software.  It's happening.  But to make it happen at a faster rate the upper level management needs to be involved.  From what I have seen, the trend is that upper level managers (CIOs) are becoming more involved and open to the idea on a daily basis when they start getting hints that much of their critical operation is happening on Linux.
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« Reply #7 on: 13 January 2002, 21:40 »
quote:
Originally posted by microsoft ceo:


Hahaha lol
Shrek was done on Silicon Graphics workstations b/c if you own the dvd there is a special feature called "The tech of Shrek" and all the computers are running IRIX.    
Irix/SGI systems are built from the ground up for graphical work and I dont think Linux will ever become successful in that field.



The actual rendering was done on a linux cluster; the SGI machines were basically "running" the cluster.
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