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Why Doesn't Bill want us to uninstall his browser?

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xyle_one:
oh. there was no virus there. it just open your cd drive(s) and then asks you to click the red hat link.

jtpenrod:

quote:the reason you cannot uninstall IE is to keep you using microsoft products and to keep you seeing the word "microsoft" until you get it screen-burned into your retina.
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I would like to add that there's one other reason. M$ soft also uses these files called *.dll. This is an extremely kludgy variation on the idea of "shared libraries". The idea is to place your commonly used subroutines into object files that are loaded into memory just once so that multiple apps can call these common functions and subroutines without having multiple copies of the same code residing in memory. However, with *NIX shared libs, you always know where they are: /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib. These *.dll's are spread all over Windows. You can find these goddamn things just about anywhere in the file system. This, in turn, makes it damn near impossible to uninstall simply because no one knows where they all are. To be sure, there are apps, such as Norton "Clean Sweep" that promises to rid your Winderz system of all stray *.dll's. And yet, not even that can get them all. When I still had Winderz, I was constantly finding stray *.dll's even after doing a "Clean Sweep".

Another big problem is that tool from the very devil himself in the blackest heart of Hell: the Winderz Registry. Just try to keep that mo-fo clean. It's just not possible       (Compare that to the human-readable /etc config files that *NIX systems use.) A "clean uninstall" is a figment of the imagination: it just doesn't happen.

It's a marvel of modern technology that Winderz works at all.    :D  
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Faust:
Or alternatively a marvel of a huge processor, wasted hdd space and tonnes of ram.  Plus you forgot to mention that no one that Microsoft doesnt approve of can use "their" dlls.  

Visentinel:
gosh Calum    :eek:  

I didnt want a rise, IE is free i didnt pay for it nor did i pay for windows and VI is a roman Numeral and i guess you know what a sentinel is.

I was merely Stating the truth, i didint like Mozilla, not coz its Open Source or its not MS, its simply how i felt, If you Support Open SOurce then u Support Free speech rite?

I actully dont like IE, Its Shit, the Browser itself is a POS.

Ile Be honest with you, if MyIE2 could be Ported to use Gecko ide Use it, and ide be happy that ime on a More Secure Engine.

But it Cant

The Standards thing, well i know what yous are saying is true, Its General Knowledge

[ May 15, 2003: Message edited by: Visentinel ]

Calum:
maybe you could use some other browser then? others apart from IE and mozilla do exist you know, here are just a few of course many of those are not available for windows unless you port them yourself because many distributors of open source software rightly perceive that a) mswindows is difficult to support as it keeps changing its API, which it also fails to publish fully, b) mswindows is on its way out in coming years anyway so why bother, and c) users of mswindows will probably keep using IE no matter what you do for them, people willing to use alternatives will already be using a real operating system.

Anyway, sorry if i read you the wrong way visentinel, but your comments are too close to those of many blase windoids i have talked to who don't give a shit about anything but their own immediate self gratification, i tend to read that into people's words sometimes, sometimes inappropriately.
 
quote:A "clean uninstall" is a figment of the imagination: it just doesn't happen.
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well, not entirely true. there are many open source programs, many from the GNU project, that do not use the windows registry when they are installed in windows. Mozilla firebird does not and neither does FileZilla (unless you tell it to), and many others don't also, they all use config files the same as they would in *ix.

Also programs like GAIM and GIMP use the GIMP ToolKit even when running in windows, so they don't (i think) use dlls, choosing instead to use the GTK libraries you installed (all in a sensible location so you know where they are).

of course it appears that people using windows prefer not to use open source programs for some reason...

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