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cyrax:
the problem with you people is that you are jealous... yeah thats what i said, you JEALOUS of Bill Gates' money. The computer wouldn't be what it is now without him so why dont you show a little respect for the man, he has done nothing wrong. He built his empire from scratch and he dosn't need little people like you trying to tear it down.
iancom:
Of course most people would be jealous of someone who has that much money.
Colombian drug barons have millions if not billions of dollars lying around... it doesn't mean that the way they went about obtaining that money is right.
Microsoft has never been an innovator, it simply latches onto good ideas within the technology sector, develops its own inferior solutions and markets them extremely aggressively. All this whilst ensuring that their products are sufficiently incompatible with those of their competitors to cause their software to spread rather like a virus.
As more and more companies rely on M$ software, those around them and doing business with them find that in order to continue doing business with them they must also get M$ products.
This spreads in all directions... customers are forced to use M$ products since a lot of businesses' websites are designed exclusively for IE. And since most customers use M$ IE, most businesses design their website specifically for it.
It's a viscious circle, and that's just one very small part of it. I won't even go into their extremely underhand licensing terms of OEMs that practically ensures that no-one buying a new computer will get one with any OS other than a M$ one.
Even if M$ were to make the best software in existence (only likely once there is no other software in existence) I would still be strongly opposed to them since the Internet, and the community built around it and technology in general should never be controlled by any one organisation, government or company.
Just consider the situation where one massive company has complete control over all the world's television stations. They produce all news programmes, they decide what everyone watches... they decide what is right, what is wrong, what you should buy, how you should live your life. Whether, in fact it really is *your* life any more...
This is Microsoft's vision for the biggest global media phenomenon since television. They will control the Internet, and they will control our lives.
They won't succeed. They can't be allowed to succeed.
Calum:
WARNING, THIS POST IS VERY ANGRY AND HOPEFULLY OFFENSIVE.
quote:Cyrax had this to say for her/himself:
the problem with you people is that you are jealous... yeah thats what i said, you JEALOUS of Bill Gates' money. The computer wouldn't be what it is now without him so why dont you show a little respect for the man, he has done nothing wrong. He built his empire from scratch and he dosn't need little people like you trying to tear it down
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JEALOUS!?! OF THAT LITTLE WORM?
Maybe in 'america' (where you say you are from) money is THAT important but i have the strong belief that actually money is only THAT important to those who choose to give a SHIT, wherever they are on the planet!
Cyrax get a life, instead of dreaming of somebody else's! YOU are obviously jealous of Bill Gates (though God knows why!) and his money! i wouldn't want to be Bill Gates if i had twenty times as much dough as him! get real!!!
And before you go off on your high horse, the reason i am so enthused here is not because you touched a nerve or any of that shit, it's because i am SO INSULTED THAT YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO THINK I ENVY BILL GATES!
quote:The computer wouldn't be what it is now without him so why dont you show a little respect for the man, he has done nothing wrong.
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This is EVEN WORSE! WHAT computer? yours? you are right, the industry would not now be the hamstrung opportunistic backstabbing shambles it is now without Microsoft. Mr Gates bludgeoned the open source movement in the head from behind and then called up his mates to put the boot in, before putting arsenic in said mates' coffee afterwards! (Metaphorically speaking, before you start).
And WHY should i show this git my respect? NO-ONE gets my respect until i know they deserve it! what a moron you are! you just blindly go around adulating and fawning over somebody just because they have had the combination of ruthlessness and luck that allows them to have more MONEY than you, do you? Pathetic.
quote:he has done nothing wrong.
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I will not even dignify this with a comment.
quote:He built his empire from scratch and he dosn't need little people like you trying to tear it down
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Dicksplash! no-one is doing any tearing down, you balloon! what's being advocated here is that people be given the CHOICE, do you remember what a choice is? If people want to continue using Microsoft's fuckware, then HEY! Let them dig their own graves i say! BUT! those people who choose NOT to subscribe to the Microsoft way SHOULD be able to run their computers totally free of Microsoft's products.
They're only one company, for God's sake! if you wanted not to run any software from, oh lets say PHATWARE, because you believed their stuff was unstable, nobody would mind, but because it's Microsoft, everybody wants to run around screaming "oh leave Lord Gates alone you bad boys, you are just jealous!" We have the exact same problem in the "Commonwealth" with those moronic royalists who think the royal family is a great idea no matter what they do. That's one problem you americans need not bother about.
In the end, if Microsoft can't even compete with an OS (Linux for example) that has after all been written mostly by hobbyists in their spare time, then HEY, it's just market forces in action! I thought you capitalists believed that if a company fails to make money, it's their own fault! Well, you can't have it both ways, dummy.
I will leave you with a transcript of a letter that Mr Gates circulated some time ago. Some people may have missed it. Read it and think about it. The main reason for communication is to share and learn, not to confuse and control:
quote:
AN OPEN LETTER TO HOBBYISTS By William Henry Gates III
February 3, 1976
To me, the most critical thing in the hobby market right now is the lack of good software courses, books and software itself. Without good software and an owner who understands programming, a hobby computer is wasted. Will quality software be written for the hobby market?
Almost a year ago, Paul Allen and myself, expecting the hobby market to expand, hired Monte Davidoff and developed Altair BASIC. Though the initial work took only two months, the three of us have spent most of the last year documenting, improving and adding features to BASIC. Now we have 4K, 8K, EXTENDED, ROM and DISK BASIC. The value of the computer time we have used exceeds $40,000.
The feedback we have gotten from the hundreds of people who say they are using BASIC has all been positive. Two surprising things are apparent, however,
1) Most of these "users" never bought BASIC (less than 10% of all Altair owners have bought BASIC), and
2) The amount of royalties we have received from sales to hobbyists makes the time spent on Altair BASIC worth less than $2 an hour.
Why is this? As the majority of hobbyists must be aware, most of you steal your software. Hardware must be paid for, but software is something to share. Who cares if the people who worked on it get paid?
Is this fair? One thing you don't do by stealing software is get back at MITS for some problem you may have had. MITS doesn't make money selling software. The royalty paid to us, the manual, the tape and the overhead make it a break-even operation. One thing you do do is prevent good software from being written. Who can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free? The fact is, no one besides us has invested a lot of money in hobby software. We have written 6800 BASIC, and are writing 8080 APL and 6800 APL, but there is very little incentive to make this software available to hobbyists. Most directly, the thing you do is theft.
What about the guys who re-sell Altair BASIC, aren't they making money on hobby software? Yes, but those who have been reported to us may lose in the end. They are the ones who give hobbyists a bad name, and should be kicked out of any club meeting they show up at.
I would appreciate letters from any one who wants to pay up, or has a suggestion or comment. Just write to me at 1180 Alvarado SE, #114, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87108. Nothing would please me more than being able to hire ten programmers and deluge the hobby market with good software.
Bill Gates
General Partner, Micro-Soft
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psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by IanC:
Just consider the situation where one massive company has complete control over all the world's television stations. They produce all news programmes, they decide what everyone watches... they decide what is right, what is wrong, what you should buy, how you should live your life. Whether, in fact it really is *your* life any more...
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Actually AOL/TimeWarrner comes pretty close to this. Have you looked into them? They own most of the most popular TV stations, Magazines, Movie studios, etc. An excelent Article in the Newyorker a while back did a feture on them and when you readlize the bredth of the control they have over what you watch and think, it's like: "OMG I have been had by Big Bro.!"
Freaky really.
Kage:
Bill Gates is a good businessman, and he is a smart person - no doubt about that. However, when it comes to his scruples, they are highly in question. He doesn't really care about his consumers, he cares more about the market share. Personally, if they made a decent product and did not smash anything resembling conpetition I wouldn't care how he was. The fact that they make a shitty product AND tend to stifle development is what really riles me.
Bill Gates didn't make the computer what it is today, you retard. He redesigned existing systems and packaged them nicely, in the long run. Why the hell do windows gui's so resemble that of Macs? X? Its because he ripped the idea and simply made it cheap and easy to use and install.
The fact remains that all forms of windows to date really are NOT for power users. They hide so much information about the base level system that truly tweaking a system simply cannot happen. You can code applications, sure, but they still have to link with some win32 api shit. (I am NOT a win32 coder and never will, so I have no clue the real way it works) The proliferation of shitty little programs that dont work is testament to this.
Ah fuck, what I really mean to say is that it isn't a learning operating system. It's stagnant. You can learn how to navigate around, but you won't learn how things really work, and that's the way MS would like it. The less you know about how they make things work, the more idiotic updates you could do yourself that they can sell to you.
Example: My netbsd laptop has a problem mapping /dev/vga on the new 1.5ZA kernel. After a bit of reading, I determined it was the securelevel setting in the kernel config. I switched it to insecure mode, and now it is working. This required a kernel recompile. could you do that with any current windows system? No. you would have to either buy a patch or download a patch a month after the issue with them.
Abstraction is good - in programming. NOT in system operation and configuration.
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