Author Topic: My adventures attempting to install Mandrake/Linux  (Read 471 times)

saddlemagic

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Kudos: 0
I'll start with the beginning. I have a Pentium MMX, 233mHz, 96 mb RAM. It came preloaded with Win95 and other things, when I bought it in Jan 98. Despite everything else the machine has been somewhat stable. It has never corrupted files or anything that would cause me to reload Windows.

That was part of the problem.

I recently received my copy of Mandrake/Linux 8.2, four CDs including OpenOffice, $7 including shipping. I saved everything I thought relevent, cleaned up the primary hard drive, made my boot floppy and went to town.

I planned on making a dual boot setup but, when it got to the point of partitioning the hard drive it couldn't do that. It said it could not use the unused portion of the drive. I ran through the options, which added up to all or nothing, I was in too far to quit and go home. So, I took the entire drive and did it up.

Mandrake installed just fine and seemed to work. It said my sound card was crap, I agreed. It could not find my modem! I jumped through hoops and ran in circles, it still couldn't find the modem. Not knowing Linux in the least I couldn't find my other two hard drives either. They were there, I just couldn't access them. Eventually, I yanked a modem from another computer I have, Mandrake couldn't see it either! I tried everything I could think of, pushed every button on the screen, no modem.

After two days of this I decided to punt. Go back to Win95, do some more research then try again when I was a little better armed.

The driver I kept for my CD-ROM drive would not work... Eventually I installed another CD drive and got that to work. Reformatted the hard drive and got Windows loaded. Windows couldn't find the modem either!

After a day of working on it, I found the root of the problem:

Winmodem
Winvideo
Winaudio
WinCD-ROM drive

The video card can stand alone but, really wants/needs it's WinDrivers. The audio card is crap without it's WinDrivers. Linux was able to use the CD-ROM drive and use it (32x Toshiba w/ IDE interface), without it's WinDrivers DOS and Windows can't use it. The Winmodem can't even be see by Windows unless it's WinDrivers are loaded. None of the above revelations are documented with my machine and I have all the manuals. They allude to everything being standard hardware.

So, after I get a modem, an audio card and a CD-RW to put in this ol'puter, it will have to stay a Win95 box. Maybe I'll pick up a used or refurbished box, sans OS, and run up my copy of Mandrake on that instead.
Bitter? I'm not bitter. After seeing what Bill Gates and MicroSoft has inflicted upon us. I wish Bill would choke on a cheese sandwich and put us out of his misery.

pkd_lives

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 554
  • Kudos: 0
My adventures attempting to install Mandrake/Linux
« Reply #1 on: 7 August 2002, 00:56 »
Oh dear.

Perhaps the lesson best learnt is this. Find out all your hardware first. Then go to the website of you distro. and check the compatability of your hardware. Mandrake has a good one, so does Red Hat.

I know that is little words of comfort, but at least you can do it, it was not your fault it failed.
Tough - Adapt or die : Read The Fucking Manual.

Local Area Network in Australia: the LAN down under.


choasforages

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,729
  • Kudos: 7
    • http://it died
My adventures attempting to install Mandrake/Linux
« Reply #2 on: 7 August 2002, 02:51 »
hmmm, winmodems, why did they ever make such peices of shit. even under windows they don't work that great. as for winaudio, i ran into that problem before, i wasn't able to use linux atfirst. and if you have a little $$$$ to part with, ebay is a great place to pick up equipment off of. like i got 7 10baset nics for like $35./*i had to traid a ultra 66 ide card for the 32port hub though*/ and last but least, have phun

[ August 06, 2002: Message edited by: choasforages ]

x86: a hack on a hack of a hackway
alpha, hewlett packed it A-way
ppc: the fruity way
mips: the graphical way
sparc: the sunny way
4:20.....forget the DMCA for a while!!!

lazygamer

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 1,146
  • Kudos: 0
My adventures attempting to install Mandrake/Linux
« Reply #3 on: 7 August 2002, 04:46 »
HOLY SHIT! Well I suppose win-stuff can't really be blamed eh?

Ok Voodoo 3 2000 PCI, winvideo?
Hewlett packard CD-Writer plus 9100 series, win cd?
DVD rom, can't remember who makes it, win cd?
Soundblaster 128 PCI, win sound?
ADSL modem, daewoo, winmodem?

Very scary cuz I thought only winmodems exsisted.

I've used my CD drives in dos(although I haven't tried the DVD one yet), same with my Voodoo and soundblaster, does this make it non-winBS?
For every hot Lesbian you see in a porno video, there is a fat, butch-like, or just downright ugly lesbian beeyotch marching in a gay pride parade, or bitching about same sex marriages. -Lazygamer on homosexuality

voidmain

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,605
  • Kudos: 184
    • http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/
My adventures attempting to install Mandrake/Linux
« Reply #4 on: 7 August 2002, 04:59 »
Huh? Who said that stuff was "Win" stuff?  Saddle Magic didn't mention any makes/models.  The only things that really are "Win" stuff (winmodems) and proprietary devices that "emulate" hardware functions in software, and the only software that will make them work are proprietary and written for Windows.  I don't believe any of the items you mention fall into this category...  

Other items might be pieces of hardware from manufacturers that do not give any programming details to anyone other than Microsoft (or at least do not open up details on how to program their devices). I believe the trend is that more and more hardware companies are opening up, not closing up.
Someone please remove this account. Thanks...

choasforages

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,729
  • Kudos: 7
    • http://it died
My adventures attempting to install Mandrake/Linux
« Reply #5 on: 7 August 2002, 05:00 »
calm down, the cdburner will work,
the soundblaster will defiantly work
the dvdrom drive will work
the voodoo card will work
and how is the adsl modem plugged into the comupter
if it is through an ethernet card, easy
x86: a hack on a hack of a hackway
alpha, hewlett packed it A-way
ppc: the fruity way
mips: the graphical way
sparc: the sunny way
4:20.....forget the DMCA for a while!!!