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How Apple+Mac is better than Windows+Intel
Zombie9920:
Ahh, here we go.
This is updated since the first time I posted it and it throws Linux in there also. Unfortunatley OSX 10.2 isn't in the comparison, but I'm sure that it still has alot of shortcomings. MAcOSX doesn't even support DVD-RW and Floppy drives out of the box. What a joke. Windows has had support for DVD-R AND DVD-RW for a long time..so why does Apple only want to support DVD-R? From the way it appears, Linux is technically superior to MacOS also. ;)
Once again, I'm not afraid to show that MacOS is not all that and a box of chocolates.
http://thetechnozone.com/comdex/2002/OS_Shootout-2002.htm
(EDIT)Ahh, I see that there is some OSX 10.2 comparison in there..whats this? FTP uploads are broken in Jaguar, there are 802.11b issues in Jaguar, etc. How interesting.
[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
It is a legit question. My point is, Apple does the very same shit that Microsoft does but some people tend to overlook that fact. Apple is a monopoly also..and if they were the big guys and MS were the little guys Apple would be a far worse monopoly than what MS is. MS wants control of the software market, Apple wants complete control(of the hardware and software market).
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It's not the same thing. Apple has their own hardware to sell their operating system with. Microsoft does not. Same with Sun. Same with IBM (RISC/PPC servers, and mainframes), same with HP (high end PA systems). They are computer system manufacturers that also happen to have developed their own OS. Apple from the beginning created their own hardware and wrote the OS to go along with that hardware.
I can understand hardware manufacturers wanting their own OS to go on their hardware. But for those hardware manufacturers that do not have their own OS, I believe they should have the right to sell that hardware with any OS they want, or no OS at all at no penalty.
[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
Pantso:
quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
It is a legit question. My point is, Apple does the very same shit that Microsoft does but some people tend to overlook that fact. Apple is a monopoly also..and if they were the big guys and MS were the little guys Apple would be a far worse monopoly than what MS is. MS wants control of the software market, Apple wants complete control(of the hardware and software market).
You see, maybe some people like the way a Mac box looks but they don't want to run MacOS. Maybe the person doesn't want to pay for MacOS considering he/she won't use it.
At least with a PC you can get a naked box(maybe not the one you particularly want..but there are some naked PC choices). You don't get that option with Macs.
Saying MacOS kicks the shit out of Windows is a personal opinion. Maybe some people like Windows better than MacOS. Maybe some people like Linux better than MacOS and of course some people like Linux better than Windows. It is all personal preference. As a matter of fact, Windows can do more out of the box than MacOS can(I'll dig up the comparison article I posted a long time ago in a few). ;)
[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]
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Most of what you say is true except for the out of the box thing where I believe that OS X and XPee offer more or less the same apps. For instance, OS X comes with iTunes, iPhoto, iMovies, AppleWorks, Internet Exploder (yak!) and a shitload of other apps like ichat, Quick Time and not to mention the utilities like Network Utility, Netinfo manager etc. The list is really long.
Opposite of that and on the Windows side you have what? Internet Exploder, MS Paint, Media Player, Movie Maker and? What about an Office suite? You have to pay a shitload of money to buy MS Office. Now if you want to talk about the alternatives like Abiword, openOffice etc they all run in OS X under the X window system and they are all for free.
To correct something that you said in your post, two or more corporations form an oligopoly not a monopoly and M$ was mostly accused for monopolistic practises and not that it is a monopoly. Of course there are alternatives out there but if M$ continues to act like that ie coming out with proprietary file formats etc, then it will tend to be a monopoly, by having eliminated all its rivals. That's what the fuss is all about.
Finally, you certainly have a point in the hardware part of your post and i totally agree there.
Zombie9920:
quote:Originally posted by void main:
It's not the same thing. Apple has their own hardware to sell their operating system with. Microsoft does not. Same with Sun. Same with IBM (RISC/PPC servers, and mainframes), same with HP (high end PA systems). They are computer system manufacturers that also happen to have developed their own OS. Apple from the beginning created their own hardware and wrote the OS to go along with that hardware.
I can understand hardware manufacturers wanting their own OS to go on their hardware. But for those hardware manufacturers that do not have their own OS, I believe they should have the right to sell that hardware with any OS they want, or no OS at all at no penalty.
[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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Oh, so if MS started making thier own PC's to sell there wouldn't be a problem with MS Windows being pre-installed? But If MS started making PC's would'nt you guys start calling them an even bigger monopoly than they are now?
It is a catch 22. LoL
Pantso:
FTP uploads broken in Jaguar?? Where the hell did they get that from??? :eek: :eek:
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