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voidmain:
I could only find one or two of what could be considered a virus. (Almost all of those hits in Google point to the same one or two). And could you kindly explain how I would be able to get a virus in Linux? My email program will not automatically execute a program, and even if it does, what's it going to do? It can't modify any system files. I've been trying for 10 years and still haven't seen one. There are no binary executables that my userid has permissions to modify. It can't run through my personal email list and send itself to my friends. So can you explain to me why I should be concerned and how you can even consider it a virus?
And this guy has publicly challenged anyone on the net to infect his system with a virus: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/anti-virus.php3
It's also interesting that I had to install Linux servers in front of our exchange servers to keep Windows viruses from entering the exchange servers, and on to our users. And believe me, the Exchange servers are soon to be replaced with Linux servers (they were installed prior to my arrival).
[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by SPoT:
Apple sucks. It is inferior to IBM clone products. Only die hard, afraid to let go of what they know people still use them.
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I have yet to see someone prove this to me. I mean seriously, do you know what you are talking about, or are you just trolling for the Mac fans?
Maybe the Film Industry, Education, and Publishing are narowminded industries that are afraid to let go of what they know, but I don't think so/
This is a load of crap, Apple's are comparable to IBM clones in more ways than one and have a few advantages over them which I have discused elsewere. And I, and many other Mac users, are not die hard let go what they know blah blah blah... alot of us are people who got sick of Bill Gates putting his dick in our ass and switched over to a decent platform/OS.
And what the hell do you mean M$ is not a monopoly? Jesus, they are only out to control the desktop computer market and the internet experience. They just go around stealing/buying up/ extorting other companies good ideas and passing them off as their own, in the interest of dominating their market and controling peoples CHOICE!! No not a monopoly, a fucking cancer!
Since when has M$ made a serious attempt at making a better product?! Honestly, your the one who seems to be eating up the propagahnda... M$ has never had an origional idea, has never made an attempt at putting out a GOOD product, and has never made an attempt at actual competiotion. M$'s buisness idea is to coral their users into a small little cage and bleed their wallets. Your probably don't see this cuz it looks like maybe you are one of those people who are aftraid to let go of what they know etc. etc. ? Maybe you should turn off the idiot box.
But then again your idea of a computer probably means something you can play Quake on and surf for porn. In that case, go ahead and let XP watch you do it and make sure it keeps a watchfull eye on you.
[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
Fett101:
quote:Increased virus-writer activity in the area of virus development for Linux has been registered this year. 37 new viruses and Trojans for this operating system have been detected. Therefore, currently the total number of viruses for Linux is 43, and what is most remarkable is that in 2000, the quantity of these viruses has increased 7-fold.
Despite the fact that some species are able to replicate and work independently, no Linux virus has ever been detected "in-the-wild." Kaspersky Lab experts assume that this is because the Linux desktop standard is not as popular as its competitors.
The most interesting member of the Linux virus family is Siilov. It is the first Linux virus that works in background mode, and is able to infect files in real-time mode.
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[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: Fett101 ]
voidmain:
I don't think you've ever run Linux. The reasons that these viruses are not widespread is not because Linux is not widespread. It's because viruses can't replicate like they can in Windows. Again, I have *no* fear of viruses in Linux. I've never seen one, I've never known anyone who has seen one. And even if 100% of the desktops ran Linux viruses would not be a wide spread problem, period. One of the nice things about Linux is there is diversity, unlike Winblows. You got one Winblows machine, you got em all. What email client do you use? I'll bet you use one of the two virus traps Outlook or Outlook Express right? Ask a Linux person what they use for an email client, I bet you rarely get the same answer. This is not a bad thing. It's competition, and if you are a virus writer by profession, you won't be in business very long.
Oh, and out of those 43 "trojans and viruses", how many were *actually* viruses? They are two different things. Now, even if one or two of them could actually be considered viruses (which I would still likely contest), they just couldn't do much damage or spread very far. And I wouldn't be surprised if it's the AV companies trying to spread fear by starting these rumors or writing a feeble "virus" just so they can stay in business after Microsoft goes out of business.
[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
Fett101:
quote: Ask a Linux person what they use for an email client, I bet you rarely get the same answer
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And if you get 90% of computers to run linux, how many different e-mail clients will there really be? There would surely be a few very popular ones that could be found on a large number of machines.
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