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Why people choose Microsoft.
excorcist:
Look, it seems that most of you miss the point.
Yes Linux is better
No linux is not easy to use right out of the box
Yes a lot of people don't even realize that linux exists (see lack of marketing)
No there is hardly any available support for linux (except for places like this)
No my grandpa could not use linux
No games are not easy to install on a linux box
Yes linux is extremely cryptic to new users
I have used computers since I put my first 8086 computer together. I have been working on them since the 286 came out and now I own my own Modification and Repair business (KC Case Modifications).
Come on guys, you really think that people don't use linux because they are blinded? I'm not blinded, I am a fully certified tech and have been for quite some time. Linux is ass to use in comparison to say, xp pro. Yes it is a resource hog but it's familiar and easy. I don't really want to have to recompile the newest copy of my favorite game just to install it on linux.
If Linux would develop some tools to simplify things for previous windows users then maybe more people would flock to linux. Unfortunately anyone that buys a prebuit system is an idiot (excepting laptops. See too low voltage caps on motherboards for purposes of money. I.E. Gateway - Used to work for them).
Just cause some of you are under the impression that you are Uber 1337 does nothing for the rest of the people in the world. Just because it was easy for you to learn does not mean that it is easy for someone with no knowledge to learn.
People do not want to have to read a 1000 page manual to use their computer. How would you feel if when you bought a new car you had to build the engine yourself?
Ahh fuckit. Half of you will probably not get my point since this thread was created for the bashing of windows.
[ March 25, 2003: Message edited by: excorcist ]
emh:
quote:Originally posted by excorcist:
Look, it seems that most of you miss the point.
Yes Linux is better
No linux is not easy to use right out of the box
Yes a lot of people don't even realize that linux exists (see lack of marketing)
No there is hardly any available support for linux (except for places like this)
No my grandpa could not use linux
No games are not easy to install on a linux box
Yes linux is extremely cryptic to new users
I have used computers since I put my first 8086 computer together. I have been working on them since the 286 came out and now I own my own Modification and Repair business (KC Case Modifications).
Come on guys, you really think that people don't use linux because they are blinded? I'm not blinded, I am a fully certified tech and have been for quite some time. Linux is ass to use in comparison to say, xp pro. Yes it is a resource hog but it's familiar and easy. I don't really want to have to recompile the newest copy of my favorite game just to install it on linux.
If Linux would develop some tools to simplify things for previous windows users then maybe more people would flock to linux. Unfortunately anyone that buys a prebuit system is an idiot (excepting laptops. See too low voltage caps on motherboards for purposes of money. I.E. Gateway - Used to work for them).
Just cause some of you are under the impression that you are Uber 1337 does nothing for the rest of the people in the world. Just because it was easy for you to learn does not mean that it is easy for someone with no knowledge to learn.
People do not want to have to read a 1000 page manual to use their computer. How would you feel if when you bought a new car you had to build the engine yourself?
Ahh fuckit. Half of you will probably not get my point since this thread was created for the bashing of windows.
[ March 25, 2003: Message edited by: excorcist ]
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You don't have to be bitter and condescending about it, geez....
I'm still relatively new to Linux (only using it about six months), and in the time I've used it, I've never had to:
-recompile a kernel
-read a 1000-page manual. Anything I read that would help me with something was never more than one page
You say that Linux has no tools to ease the transition. Well, Mandrake Linux has all sorts of graphical tools to help with the configuration of things on your computer.
It's not so much that any flavor of Linux is harder to use than Windows, it's more that it is different. Some things will be done differently, and that takes some getting used to.
What if somebody, that has never used Windows before, started their computer experience with Linux instead? Can you honestly say that they would never be able to use Linux? Anybody that has never used computers before are going to take a long time to learn them, regardless of operating system.
I should state for the record that I'm generally an idiot when it comes to computers. My computer programming experience has never advanced beyond Applesoft BASIC, and I do not, nor am I working toward, a degree having to do with computers. I'm merely an average user that uses his computer for simple things like internet, e-mail, word processing, finance tracking, etc. (okay, I also use it for music production) And I find Mandrake Linux 9.0 to be very simple and straightforward to use for all of those tasks.
excorcist:
ok good points
I shoulda made an exception about mandrake. It is relitavely easy to use.
Wasn't trying to be condesending about it, sorry about that.
I just wish linux was a little more user friendly.
Stryker:
RedHat 7.3 I think pretty much anybody can install and use without any problems. With the possible exception of network setup (most people dont mess with that anyways) i mean dialup or non-dhcp internet connections. RedHat 8 gave me a few issues which i resolved. But most people wouldn't be able to fix what i did. What would you like to be able to do that doesn't have a graphics tool? maybe i'll make one for you.
Faust:
quote:apt-get doesn't do well over dial up.
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heh heh heh...
slightly off topic but here goes:
My step by step guide to a better apt-get
1) Move into Australian university
2) Notice that net access is fast (ethernet)
3) Notice that net access is expensive
4) Notice that mirror.aarnet.edu.au is freely accessible from any Australian uni or uni campus.
5) Notice that mirror.aarnet.edu.au is a debian mirror.
6) Install debian to try it out (fucking cool btw, best distributions so far ignoring the sheer age of the X server but you can replace that.)
7) Say out loud "stuff the cdrom install im using http."
8) Swear loudly when you d/l debian install at OVER nine megabytes per second... (at this speed my processor is actually slowing down my net access... I get a huge perfomance hit when I download iso image because my 256 megabytes of SDRAM cant hold it all quickly enough.)
9) Smile. Dance. Yell "linux rules!" at top of lungs.
Well that was my off topic bragging session.
I now return you to your life (already in progress)
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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