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Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build 2082
Canadian Lover:
Wow... is Solaris retarded?
hm_murdock:
Very likely so!
solarismka:
quote:Originally posted by Viper:
At the moment there is no way to disprove his postings. SP2 is still new and we have yet to see any new vulnerabilities. At this point and time there is no way to prove wether it is going to do any good or not. He is posting that it isn't any good with no proof to back the statement up whatsoever.
[ August 10, 2004: Message edited by: Viper ]
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You use what has happened in the past!
Service Packs have been around a long time!
They have not worked.
http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000135
http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=64283
http://www.google.ca/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22patch+for+a+patch%22+%2B%22Microsoft%22&spell=1
The evedence is there. You choose to ignore it.
solarismka:
quote:Originally posted by Aloone:
Solaris is arguing that Windows hasn't improved since 95 and that there is no benefit in using any of the previous patches.
We all know he is wrong and there also is a lot of technical evidence to prove him wrong too, so there's no point in trying to argue with him.
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Npo, you THINK i'm wrong. That does not mean that I AM wrong.
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As you have already stated Solaris is a Linux zealot, even if LongHorn is really good (although very unlikely), he will still continue to ague that it's no better than XP.
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Know what a zealot is before you lable someone with it. You have NO idea what your talking about.
solarismka:
quote:Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
[qb]Actually, Solaris, I don't support Apple anymore. I Have a Mac and OS X, but it certainly isn't my #1 thing anymore.
I support Linux and Windows.
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ok.
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Linux because it's the next big thing. Windows because, for me anyway, it just works, the same way OS X does.
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ok good for you. I however do not feel the same way.
quote:Now, first, let's point out the problems with your "debate style"... and I use that phrase loosely. This is how I present my argument.
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ok lets look....
quote:"I find Linux and Windows XP to both be equal in quality. In stability, security, and software/hardware support."
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That is your opinion. However arguing to me that Windows has supirior support over Linux IS incorrect.
quote:Your rebuttal:
"YOU A LIE!! Windows cannote be goode becas it is Micrasoft! The bloat and bloat and virus and bloat and IE and bloate and bloat and security and bloat!
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No thats YOUR rebuttel. Not mine.
quote:My reponse to you:
"I said that I have found this to be true. Your mileage my vary. For me, there have been no problems."
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Thats fine. I never disagreed with that.
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Your tirade:
"BUT WINDOWSE CANT'E BE GOOD! MIRCOSOFT DOES EVERTHING WRONG FOR TEH MONEY!! THE PR MACIHNE!! THE BLOAT THE BLOAT THE BLOAT THE BLOAT! BILL GATES! BLOAT BLOAT BLOAT BLOAT!! DRIVERS AND BLOAT!! BLOATED DRIVERS!! SECURITY BLOAT!!"
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No, That is YOUR blabering there.
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What is your personal stake in this? How is your life affected by what OS somebody runs? Somebody you'll never meet. What did Microsoft Corp. ever do to you to make you so damn hostile?
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What hostility. Oh no! He runs Linux and says it has good driver support! He does not believe in M$'es FUD, he MUST be a zealot. He MUST be evil Linspire blah blah blah.......
I couldn't care less what OS anyone runs. What you run is your own choice. But to state that windows has the same quailty in security and design is laughable.
quote:Chill the fuck out and shut your mouth. We're tired of you hijacking and ruining threads with your PR MACHINE.
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You should really count yourself in that sentence since you've been trolling since day one. All you do is 'hijack' threads with 'STFU,' whinners or some sort of immature complaints and or rants that don't make any sense.
So I'll give that advice to you. Unless you have somthing constructive other than complaining about a member STFU!!!
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SP 2 was designed to address all the things you constantly bitch about.
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So far it has not. I've tested it and so far it HAS done the same thing as before. Which is breaking applications, slowing down the machine etc...
quote:1) Security. Service Pack 2 includes numerous security updates. These range from revamped versions of IE and OE, to the new comprehensinve firewall, to low-level architectural changes that protect system memory.
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So far the memory managment seems to be the same since I do not see any performance increase in XP. Secondly, like you said its still being tested. So I'll say it is 'secure' when it is in the real world and not because M$ says so.
quote:2) Compatibility. SP 2 does break some things, particularly older (pre-Win98) apps, but what's more important to you? Running that decade-old calendar app, or security?
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If M$ was patching properly then such a question would never matter.
quote:For newer apps, compatibility is better, as SP 2 benefits from two more years nearly of compatibility development over SP 1.
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I've run new database as well as financial software. M$ Money for exsample which stopped working because of this pacth. The fire wall still does not provide a proper level of protection towards trojans as far as I can see and because of the added firewall and antivirous software, brings instability into the OS. Something that such companies Zone Alarm has already taking care off.
But then why on earth does a software fire wall or antivirus application currupt windows in the forst place. Just because one simply updates a .dat file should not constitute the machine for instabillity.
quote:3) Networking and hardware. SP 2 has greatly enhanced support for network hardware, especially wireless.
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All one needs is the setup file for the hardware that they need. It does not change the fact that it still has flaky driver support to which the system becomes unstable just because he or she has installed a driver onto the system.
quote:Configuring wireless networking is now as brain-dead simple as it is on OS X.
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plugs wireless card in. Installes driver. Windows fails to initialize the driver and now freezes up. Uninstalls driver. Looks into the control pannel. Reinstalls driver. Same problem persists But this time there is two copies of the same driver. Tries to remove driver. Register becomes currupt.....
quote:4) New Microsoft Shut The Hell Up XP. I hear they put that in just for you, Solaris.
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You mean for you since ALL you do is complain at everyone. Oh solaris is so mean.......
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Here's a screenshot using the "Star Trek" theme in the app.
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Yes, it fits someone like you nicely!
[ August 10, 2004: Message edited by: kn0wn / BOB ]
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