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Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build 2082
WMD:
quote:iMac Summer 2001 500MHz
Rage 128 Pro AGP4x graphics
1GB RAM
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Um...what? lol, no wonder. I figure even an FX 5200 would be a lot faster than that thing. You've noticed yourself that XP runs well on slow machines with a good graphics card...I don't think that a Rage 128 quite makes the cut. ;)
hm_murdock:
You're right. It's only a 128-bit 16MB card on AGP4x.
There's no reason I should expect it to have better-than-shit 2D acceleration.
Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways.
WMD:
But this is OS X we're talking about - lots (too much) of stuff to be 2D-accelerated. More than that card can take, probably. It might run XP fine, I don't know, but XP even is lighter than OS X is.
AFAIK, the Rage 128 is about equivalent to the original GeForce...GF2-MX at the very most. How that's a 128-bit ( :confused: ) 16MB, AGP 4x card...god knows, they probably just stuck the old chipset on a newer board.
wolfkhan:
I hate M$ simply because IMO they are a sub branch of the NSA....or worse. Why maintain an OS that is capable of multiple exploits????
Why would a company do this I wonder. Best way to maintain computer surveillance is to produce an OS that is soooo completely open to as many exploits as can be gotten away with that it would be easy to monitor what the user does. Back in the mid to late 90's a bill (cant recall its name) was presented to the US congress togive the feds and others the authority to enter premises etc etc to confiscate a users system on the slimmest of evidence. It was narrowly defeated, fortunately.
Sp2 is only another way to secretly plant further means to allow exploits. Remember in win95 the *.nsa extension and many thought it was an NSA thingy. Even if it wasn't the concern was there then.
I did install the sp2 and deleted it the same day as a piece of shit. ms dont fix bugs they are ordered to create them.
bedouin:
quote:Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
There you go... in the past. This is not the past. I still run my 7200 with OS 9.1... the OS released SEVEN YEARS after the machine.
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Yeah, and people are running 10.3 on 5 year old B&W G3s; Tiger will likely run on the same machine. Nothing has changed.
quote:I also ran an 800MHz G4 (Quicksilver) until I sold it to buy a G5 (WORST MISTAKE EVER). The G4 was plenty pokey.
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The same machine I'm using now, which is far from 'pokey.' It wasn't even pokey when I was using its stock 32mb Radeon card (it currently has a 128mb GeForce4 Ti 4600). Its certainly managing to drive dual displays with no noticeable lag.
My basis of comparison would be any PC running XP made within the past two years.
quote:The G5 was unusually laggy, as well. Seems very telling.
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Many others would beg to differ. You do realize you've gone from claiming Apple intentionally forces users to upgrade their hardware for new OS releases, to saying you believe Macs have an inherently slow GUI? That's a quite different claim.
quote:Then, when the crappy little free apps started requiring a 500MHz G4, and then a 1GHz G4... things got absurd.
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You're really getting to the point where I wonder if you're even serious. What 'crappy little free apps' are you referring to? I'm assuming the iApps, such as iMovie and iDVD. In that case iMovie, iTunes, and iCal require nothing more than a G3 or better processor. Garageband requires a 600mhz or better G3. The most intensive of the bunch, iDVD, requires a 733mhz G4, and considering what it does I think that's reasonable. Those real-time previews require some horsepower.
And each one of those apps (except iCal and iTunes) are pretty intensive multimedia apps, not simple calculator and notepad programs. Which 'crappy free app' requires a 1ghz G4?
quote:Get people to buy a Mac. Milk 'em for all they're worth before they realize that next month's software won't run on the computer they bought last month. Repeat process.
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More exaggeration and zero facts. And BTW, you've now gone from saying Apple forces people to upgrade their hardware and buy new operating systems, to saying Apple (though, they only make a fraction of Mac software) increases their software requirements and forces people to buy new machines. Figure out which one.
quote:Before the end of the year, I plan on having me another Mac. Will it be new? No. Will I run OS X? Probably. Will I run Tiger? Probably not. I bought Jaguar and Panther. I'm not about to shell out again. I'll wait for the next release.
If it runs on the hardware I get.
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Well, you'll be waiting quite some time for an OS after Tiger, since Apple has declared there will be no more major upgrades after it. Apparently it's a grand conspiracy by Steve Jobs to force you into buying more 2 year old machines second hand off eBay so you can['t] run the latest version of OS X.
[ August 12, 2004: Message edited by: bedouin ]
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