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Refalm:

quote:flap:
I don't think you should be judging OpenOffice on its ability to open MS Office documents. Actually it's very difficult to get it to work when you have to decode a secret, proprietary file format, and thus you can't expect them to get it 100% correct. You should be happy that it can handle MS files at all.
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voidmain:

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
The problem with OpenSource is you are relying on people who don't have huge financial pockets to work with the software, with MS you have a company that has billions of dollars for resources to work with thier software. It makes a big difference. it really does.

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Oh I see, deep financial pockets equals better software. Hmmmm, and why do they still have bigger problems with viruses today than ever before? Whey can't they still figure out how to make their OS secure? I'm sorry, all that money comes directly out of *your* pocket and into advertising.

And I don't know why the other people had a problem viewing bazouka's presentation. It worked perfectly on OpenOffice included with RedHat 8.0. I loaded it, clicked "Slide Show" and pressed the space bar to step through it. Wasn't a problem at all.

[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

voidmain:

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
The virus problem isn't an MS problem, it is a problem with too many little pimple face geeks sitting on thier ass all day writing viruses. If all of the lil' freaks would get out more there wouldn't be a virus problem. The same goes for security, if all of the lil geeks wouldn't sit on thier asses all day trying to find security holes then security holes wouldn't be a problem.

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I see, just like it reads in the EULA. M$ is not responsible for anything. It's *your* problem. Well as many times as you have been straightened out on this, it *is* a Microsoft problem when it comes to viruses. Microsoft is the only operating system that provides the underlying lack of security that makes this possible. This lack of security is by design not only in the OS but in the built-in applications such as IE and Outlook. They are meant to work in concert to perpetuate viruses.

On a default install of any Linux distribution, even if they were to consume 100% of the desktop market share, will never have the virus problems that Microsoft always has had and still has. The only exception to this rule is Lindows. Lindows is making the same mistakes that Microsoft has made. After all, Lindows is nothing more than a Microsoft wannabe anyway.

Even still, by logging on as root by default in a Lindows distribution (the least security concious distribution) viruses do not have the capability to spread like they do in a Microsoft environment because the applications do not automatically run kiddy code. So stop with the same old FUD already. Get some new FUD to spread.

[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Calum:
that's right, i agree 100% with zomie136783617831268. Got a problem with a virus? it's YOUR fault. Got a problem with duff security that you can't fix because you can't read the code that makes up your firewall? it's YOUR fault. Mysterious crashes? YOUR fault. Shitty marketting directed at you and privacy breached dueq to a media player you are required to have installed on your somputer? yes, folks, it's YOUR fault. All of these problems and more are YOUR fault for using windows in the first place!! Get a real system and notice the difference. now onto the real issue, an altogether MUCH more specific one than the rant that zombie1367836178 attempted to go off on.
quote:Originally posted by flap:
I don't think you should be judging OpenOffice on its ability to open MS Office documents. Actually it's very difficult to get it to work when you have to decode a secret, proprietary file format, and thus you can't expect them to get it 100% correct. You should be happy that it can handle MS files at all.
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Microsoft's Word 98 format is the de facto standard for most if not all internet document transfer these days, even on macs. If openoffice cannot compate in this market then it can bury its head in the sand all it wants, it just will not be good enough in my opinion, regardless o the (perfectly valid) reasons. The onus is of course on M$ to open the file format, but they won't so live with it. I only speak harshly about openoffice because many other people will too, and unlike me they will not care about the reasons.

So. Should i spend a whopping great 2 pounds fifty on openoffice 1.01? (oh yes, plus one fifty postage) or will it not be worth it? my openoffice is 1.0 from about half a year ago.

pkd_lives:
Those statements being made in this thread about Word processor intercompatability are bordering on the nieve.

I have used incarnations of Wordperfect, Word, Lotus Write, M$ Write, M$ works, and others that ran on things like VAX (over a period of 15 years) on a professional level. Open office is THE FIRST WORD PROCESSOR I have ever used that can do a very good job of processing other manufacturers documentation. Admittedly I have not rung it through as much as I would like, but then time defeats us all.

Word still has trouble with wordperfect documents (especially early ones) hell the latest versions of Word crash and burn on Word 2, and you can't even get it to recognise original word documents (pre Windows). Likewise Lotus have problems with word documents, the only interoperability I have found that seems to work regularly and very well is Word (late versions) decoding Lotus word processed documents. And this probably has more to do with the stability of Lotus' documentation format.

No word processor is 100% compatable, I doubt they ever will be until some standard comes in, to which ALL follow. To be honest I have yet to see any major difference between Open source and proprietary as far as office suites go. All are reliable, stable and can get the job done, it's just that most are not bloated, overpriced and produced by a monopolistic company.

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