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M$ to micro-manage your computer
willysnout:
quote:Originally posted by Calum:
if you hate Microsoft but refuse to use linux then you can choose a no-longer-supported OS like solaris or Beos, or you can get a BSD, or some other "harder to use" specialist OSs, or you can buy specialty hardware and fork out a mint. a Mac is the cheapest option here i am thinking, with RiscOS, Solaris9 and so on all needing special CPUs to run.
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I didn't say I'd "refuse to use Linux." I was interested in trying. But you known what? In addition to giving Linux a try, there are 20 or 30 things on my to-do list. I don't have time or interest in becoming a computer jock.
Here's how much time I was willing to put into it:
- An afternoon to get started
- Another afternoon or three to have everything working reasonably well
- No hardware or software disasters or condundrums that wind up being unsolvable by a reasonably intelligent, but non-sepcialized, person
- Some source of reliable support (which I'd have been willing to pay for) aimed at an intermedite computer user but NOT A SPECIALIST or programmer.
quote:If you want to go around saying you are a moron, then go for it. But YOU SAID IT FIRST. I put it to you that you have a guilty conscience.
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I think if you look around this board you will find those who aren't dedicated to the most complex, all-consuming versions described as morons. The connotation being that if you want Linux to be easy, user-friendly and trouble-free, you're a moron. That's what I was reacting to ... the elitism of it all. I really detest snobbery and elitism regardless of where it comes from. And trust me, there's a shitload of it where I work. I was hoping this board might be different. Oh well!
quote:If a company says in an advert that you are a moron THEN you have grounds for complaint. But NOT if somebody exercises their own right of free speech. That is what linux is all about. Free speech.
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Funny thing about free speech: We all have it. Me, too. I told you what I thought, and now you come back and say I'm a would-be censor. Not so. I am a critic. Those who dish it out need to be able to take it.
Let's put it differently: Those who desire to unseat Microsoft would (in my opinion, and I'm just one guy with one opinion) be smartest to not call people just getting their feet wet "morons." A better strategy might be for some intrepid group of people to collaborate on a web site or other means of helping NON-SPECIALISTS get weaned away slowly but surely.
But hey, there goes my idealism getting in the way again. Even among a group like this, the would-be "insurgents," the underlying spirit is nasty and hostile. Oh what the 1990s did to everyone!
quote:I suppose i might as well add that i am in no way calling you a moron, although i think that much should be obvious by now.
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If you don't live in the suburbs, you should get the honorary key to the suburbs. You have honed passive-aggressive psychology to the high art of the toniest suburb.
Here's my bottom line: I've been so thoroughly turned off by this group of people that, like with the prior experiments with an Intel video camera that didn't work, an 802.11 network that didn't work, a Microsoft "wizard" to link an XP machine and a Win98 machine that didn't work ... that I just give up.
Microsoft sucks? Yeah, they sure do. But so do their opponents. I might not like Iran, but it doesn't mean I'm going to join Syria. See ya.
choasforages:
well, a better way to get alot of help would be to list the names of everything attached to your computer. you ask us about alternatives to microsoft but don't give a list of hardware. with some of the alternatives most notably linux, some things work and some don't, i could easyly tell if something would work, wouldn't work, or be a bitch to get working
Bazoukas:
As Void Man said, if you have done your research before spending $1500+ you could have bought a MAC.
No you are not a Moron because you dont Use Linux, you are a Moron because you gave a good amount of money because a kid at the store smoked your ass.
Besides take it from a guy that was using Windows all the time. Mandrake Linux and Red Hat Linux are VERY user friendly these days. Shit Mandrake and Red Hat even recognized my game pads.
Windows 2000 didnt recognize my Sound Blaster 512(i think is the model) but Mandrake and Red Hat did.
And about Instalation? Common give me a brake. It took less time than Windows installation.
Just a side note....i was a psych major and now because of Linux I changed major to Computer Scence. Go figure :-D
lazygamer:
quote:And about Instalation? Common give me a brake. It took less time than Windows installation.
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This is because of more compatibility, less bugs, and much more optimized code?
Calum:
quote:Originally posted by willysnout:
Funny thing about free speech: We all have it. Me, too. I told you what I thought, and now you come back and say I'm a would-be censor. Not so. I am a critic. Those who dish it out need to be able to take it.
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That's a filthy lie. I voice my opinion just like you, and you come back and tell me a load of shit. I did not say you were a would be censor. You have let your own eagerness to get angry cloud your own intellect.
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If you don't live in the suburbs, you should get the honorary key to the suburbs. You have honed passive-aggressive psychology to the high art of the toniest suburb.
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i don't live in the suburbs and this statement is also a lie. You have totally misconstrued me if you think i am being passive-aggressive, you are probably misunderstanding me deliberately on your way over to the moral high ground.
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Here's my bottom line: I've been so thoroughly turned off by this group of people that, like with the prior experiments with an Intel video camera that didn't work, an 802.11 network that didn't work, a Microsoft "wizard" to link an XP machine and a Win98 machine that didn't work ... that I just give up.
Microsoft sucks? Yeah, they sure do. But so do their opponents. I might not like Iran, but it doesn't mean I'm going to join Syria. See ya.
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I changed my mind, you really are a moron, and i'm happy to voice my opinion on that.
Quite frankly you are very closed minded. You refuse to take any advice or allow any actual information to sink in while at the same time wasting your energy on the sentiment (real or perceived, mostly perceived) contained in the way the information is presented.
Quite frankly, if you don't want to use Microsoft stuff, don't use it, if you do, do. That's what choice is all about, but if all you want to do is come here and tell everybody what an asshole they are, when i have yet to see one useful post from you, then in my opinion, you should fuck off.
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