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Serious question for WIN advocates
badkarma:
oh and unixsucks ... I've made a lot of points besides the VB issue, yet you seem to avoid replying to them?
www.unixsucks.com:
To all of you *NIX fans.
The more I talk to you the more I can see that you don't question your religion and you NEVER acknowledge anything even if I would prove your wrong.
Look at BadKarma. He made a point that you need to buy $1500 VS.NET to program VB.NET. I have answered him 2 times, even attached links and he still would not admit that he was wrong.
Look at VoidMain. I asked him about assigning permission to different groups to single file. First he got defensive that there is ACL, then we figured out that NFS does not support it and then he admitted that he use MS technologies for file sharing! He still has not answered how to assign permission to the file for locally logged on use only.
This will never end as you never admit anything even if you feel that you are wrong.
There were only single posting which did admit that Linux community bowed to NT after Mindcrafts tests. I respect him as at least he has his had clear of idolizing things as all of you do.
I had to spend 2 months of my time to prepare and certify for Sun Solaris Admin certification. The only reason why I did it is to learn other OS, so I can see for myself wether I can do things faster or better in *NIX compared to Windows. And I found NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING which *NIX does which can not be done in Windows. But at the same time tons of things can be done faster and easier in Windows then in UNIX, apart from some things which you can not do in UNIX at all.
How do you file share? NFS? How secure is that? I don't consider myself big expert in NIS but Solaris admin book told me that NIS database syncronisations performed in clear text. Is it true? NIS+ is not compatible with NIS while NT domain structure can be easily migrated and supported under Windows 2000 AD. Please explain me how your user friendly *NIX would be able to enable clients to print to newly installed printer. How much time would it take you to setup clients? How much time would it take you in Windows (send email with UNC path to print server and double click printer, that's it).
Whatever! Keep your minds closed! It's the best way to worship I understand that.
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: http://www.unixsucks.com ]
badkarma:
I'm not a network expert so I can't really comment on that. The only point I made which you refuted was about VB.NET requiring VS.NET and I already admitted that yes, you don't need VS.NET to compile VB.NET apps however most MSDN code example require VS.NET. I didn't pull that link from the MSDN knowledge base out of my ass....
All my other points of advantages a developer using linux vs a developer using windows still stand ....
flap:
I have 3000 .html files on my webserver. I want to rename them all to .php and change all the links in the pages accordingly. I type one line into a UNIX command prompt to do this. How do I do it in Windows?
creedon:
quote:Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com:
To all of you *NIX fans.
The more I talk to you the more I can see that you don't question your religion and you NEVER acknowledge anything even if I would prove your wrong.
Look at BadKarma. He made a point that you need to buy $1500 VS.NET to program VB.NET. I have answered him 2 times, even attached links and he still would not admit that he was wrong.
Look at VoidMain. I asked him about assigning permission to different groups to single file. First he got defensive that there is ACL, then we figured out that NFS does not support it and then he admitted that he use MS technologies for file sharing! He still has not answered how to assign permission to the file for locally logged on use only.
This will never end as you never admit anything even if you feel that you are wrong.
There were only single posting which did admit that Linux community bowed to NT after Mindcrafts tests. I respect him as at least he has his had clear of idolizing things as all of you do.
I had to spend 2 months of my time to prepare and certify for Sun Solaris Admin certification. The only reason why I did it is to learn other OS, so I can see for myself wether I can do things faster or better in *NIX compared to Windows. And I found NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING which *NIX does which can not be done in Windows. But at the same time tons of things can be done faster and easier in Windows then in UNIX, apart from some things which you can not do in UNIX at all.
How do you file share? NFS? How secure is that? I don't consider myself big expert in NIS but Solaris admin book told me that NIS database syncronisations performed in clear text. Is it true? NIS+ is not compatible with NIS while NT domain structure can be easily migrated and supported under Windows 2000 AD. Please explain me how your user friendly *NIX would be able to enable clients to print to newly installed printer. How much time would it take you to setup clients? How much time would it take you in Windows (send email with UNC path to print server and double click printer, that's it).
Whatever! Keep your minds closed! It's the best way to worship I understand that.
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: www.unixsucks.com ]
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You weren't reading very well when you responded to this thread. My objection to the use of Microsoft products is MORAL; I'm not arguing which system is technically better, my objection is the business practices of the corporation that produces your O.S. of choice- the point I'm trying to make is, Why do MS advocates keep trying to change the opinions of Linux/UNIX users; a significant part of the community is there becaue of their dislike of the economic policies, and the underhanded tactics tha Microsoft has en=mployed over the past 20+ years. Those practices are documented, MS can't deny thm; to me the methods that Microsoft uses in its conduct of business are reprehensible- THAT'S why I use an alternative Operating System; I find the Linux philosophy to be honest and open; until MS changes their fundimental business methods, I ant NOTHING to do with them.
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