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erosnemesis

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« on: 6 September 2003, 21:51 »
I was wondering what is the big deal with the 2 differenct type of sessions you can have (KDE & GNOME). I use KDE more because i can use my desktop more efficiently but i want to know what the major differences are.
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« Reply #1 on: 6 September 2003, 21:59 »
Well, as a noob (and damn proud of it  ;)  ) I think KDE is more user friendly...
I decided to use gnome first when I just installed Mandrake but decided it didn't fit me right away.
Maybe KDE has that little bit of "windows-Start button"ish feeling   :D  
As to differences, nothing major.
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« Reply #2 on: 6 September 2003, 10:08 »
sorry to say but you are using mandrake and i am using RedHat Linux 9.0 and think they are kinda different because my GNOME and KDE both have that windows start button thing
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« Reply #3 on: 6 September 2003, 10:42 »
quote:
Originally posted by erosnemesis:
sorry to say but you are using mandrake and i am using RedHat Linux 9.0 and think they are kinda different because my GNOME and KDE both have that windows start button thing


Red Hat is kinda on its own in this case

Red Hat has the two desktops (KDE Gnome) refurbished
by a group of developers and called it blucurve.

in the RH model KDE and Gnome look alike well exactly the same, but in most other Linuxes they look TOTALLY different and act very differently.

some programs are designed for either Gnome or KDE
they are that specifically different.

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« Reply #4 on: 6 September 2003, 10:43 »
I like enlightenment.  Its really cool.  But on my main PC I use KDE cause it deals with switching locales more smoothly.  Though I havn't used Gnomein a long time, I remember myself always wanting to go back to KDE when in gnome.  But take a look at enlightenment, its really nice.

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« Reply #5 on: 10 September 2003, 00:34 »
quote:
Originally posted by erosnemesis:
I was wondering what is the big deal with the 2 differenct type of sessions you can have (KDE & GNOME). I use KDE more because i can use my desktop more efficiently but i want to know what the major differences are.
Thanks


 
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« Reply #6 on: 10 September 2003, 00:44 »
Yes it is. In fact not only is it completely "open source", it's completely Free Software.
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« Reply #7 on: 10 September 2003, 00:49 »
i prefer KDE better, just because i find it easier to customize and make it look perty.

I do enjoy enlightenment quite a bit tho
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« Reply #8 on: 10 September 2003, 00:58 »
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Originally posted by flap:
Yes it is. In fact not only is it completely "open source", it's completely Free Software.

Euhm...
KDE not being completely open source was the main reason for GNU to start the Gnome project. Just read their introduction.
"Open Source" is FREE as in FREEDOM.
Your "Free Software" NOT always Open Source.

PS: And that IS the main difference between KDE and GNOME.
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« Reply #9 on: 10 September 2003, 01:02 »
quote:
KDE isn't completely "Open Source" (unlike GNOME).


There was never any problem with this.  The problem was that the libraries it used (QT) werent free.  Now they are (under Linux at least - although I'm not sure your freedom extends to Windows ports which would seem to make it less free*)  Oh and as far as I'm aware QT was always Open Source when KDE was using it, just not Free.

Enlightenment is the best WM, followed by Blackbox.  And emacs is better than vim.  

* By this I mean for the Linux version to be free you must have the right to try and port that version to Windows.  Pretty sure you do but anyway...
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« Reply #10 on: 10 September 2003, 01:29 »
quote:
Originally posted by insomnia:

Euhm...
KDE not being completely open source was the main reason for GNU to start the Gnome project. Just read their introduction.
"Open Source" is FREE as in FREEDOM.
Your "Free Software" NOT always Open Source.

PS: And that IS the main difference between KDE and GNOME.



No, QT is now Free Software. Gnome being Free Software was the main reason why QT became Free Software.

And, no, Open Source is *not* always Free as in Freedom. There are many Open Source software projects that are not free. Free Software on the other hand *is* always 'Open Source'. I don't think you understand the difference between Free Software and Open Source. Read the link in my sig.
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« Reply #11 on: 10 September 2003, 02:20 »
Originally posted by flap:

And, no, Open Source is *not* always Free as in Freedom.

*YES IT IS

There are many Open Source software projects that are not free.

*EXACTLTY MY POINT

Free Software on the other hand *is* always 'Open Source'.

*WRONG. SHAREWARE IS FREE BUT ISN'T OPEN SOURCE.

I don't think you understand the difference between Free Software and Open Source. Read the link in

*I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT YOU THINK. (I never do, so don't take this as an insult.)

PS:KDE is a very good Open Source environment but ISN'T Open Source itself. Please DO check the Licence off ALL the KDE parts.

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« Reply #12 on: 10 September 2003, 03:57 »
Are you an idiot, or are you trying to be funny? I can't tell.

 
quote:
And, no, Open Source is *not* always Free as in Freedom.

*YES IT IS


No, it isn't.

 
quote:
There are many Open Source software projects that are not free.

*EXACTLTY MY POINT


And now you're agreeing with me?

 
quote:
Free Software on the other hand *is* always 'Open Source'.

*WRONG. SHAREWARE IS FREE BUT ISN'T OPEN SOURCE.


No, shareware is not Free. It's "free of charge" but it's not Free 'as in freedom'.

 
quote:
KDE is a very good Open Source environment but ISN'T Open Source itself


KDE is open source but it isn't open source?

Well, this is clearly a well informed debate.
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« Reply #13 on: 10 September 2003, 04:04 »
quote:
Originally posted by flap:
Are you an idiot, or are you trying to be funny? I can't tell.

I'm an idiot.
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« Reply #14 on: 10 September 2003, 04:14 »
...cause I believe in both "Open Source" and "Free Software Movement".
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