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KDE vs. GNOME
insomnia:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
No, QT is now Free Software. Gnome being Free Software was the main reason why QT became Free Software.
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So this "Flap" claims Qt is know entirely Free Software (after claiming it's also Open Source).
Funny, the peeps who build it DON'T!
They only claim it's later versions became Free Software and Open Source. You still need those LICENSED Qt libs for earlier KDE versions (still usefull for old computers).
From http://developer.kde.org/documentation/books/kde-2.0-development/ch19lev1sec3.html
19.3. The License Usage by Qt
The license used by Qt varies by version. The FreeQt license (used by Qt 1.45 and earlier) was not Open Source. The Q Public License (used by Qt 2.0 and later) is. KDE 1.1.2 and earlier is based on Qt 1.45, and KDE 2.0 is based on Qt 2.1.
...
The free version of Qt fell under the FreeQt license. This version was available only if the recipient's product was distributed under a free software license. It permitted the redistribution of Qt and access to the source code. However, it did not allow modifications of Qt to be redistributed. That final clause does not satisfy the requirements of the FSF definition and thus, it is not a free software license.
Open Source Definition:
http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.php
(Most Open Source licenses like GPL, QTL, ... don't always follow this.)
KDE IS NOT ENTIRELY 'OPEN SOURCE' AND 'FREE SOFTWARE'.
THIS REALLY WAS THE MAIN REASON TO BUILD GNOME.
(...and flap's silly insults can't change this)
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: insomnia ]
flap:
quote:KDE IS NOT ENTIRELY 'OPEN SOURCE' AND 'FREE SOFTWARE'.
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Yes, it is. Look, I know you're having difficulty grasping this, but it's quite simple. As I said, QT wasn't always Free Software, but it is now. Again, as I said, it became Free Software because of pressure created by the development of GNOME.
The 'peeps' who developed it are saying what I am, that QT used to be non-free, but is Free now. Is this sinking in at all?
insomnia:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
Yes, it is. Look, I know you're having difficulty grasping this, but it's quite simple. As I said, QT wasn't always Free Software, but it is now. Again, as I said, it became Free Software because of pressure created by the development of GNOME.
The 'peeps' who developed it are saying what I am, that QT used to be non-free, but is Free now. Is this sinking in at all?
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...?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Qt 1.45 (and earlier) are STILL under 'The FreeQT' License.
Since you seem to have a reading problem I'll repeat it.
"The free version of Qt fell under the FreeQt license. This version was available only if the recipient's product was distributed under a free software license. It permitted the redistribution of Qt and access to the source code. However, it did not allow modifications of Qt to be redistributed. That final clause does not satisfy the requirements of the FSF definition and thus, it is not a free software license."
flap:
Yes, the EARLIER versions of QT. The CURRENT version of QT in use today is Free Software. You were originally suggesting that KDE is different from GNOME because KDE isn't Free Software/Open Source, when it actually is both Free Software and Open Source. The fact that previous versions of KDE/QT weren't FS doesn't negate the fact that it is Free now.
insomnia:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
Yes, the EARLIER versions of QT. The CURRENT version of QT in use today is Free Software. You were originally suggesting that KDE is different from GNOME because KDE isn't Free Software/Open Source, when it actually is both Free Software and Open Source. The fact that previous versions of KDE/QT weren't FS doesn't negate the fact that it is Free now.
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Wrong.
Only one month ago, I still needed an early version to build a desk based on KDE 1.x.
I don't think Trolltech would ever sue anyone for using it without their permission, but legally they have the right to do this.
Qt is only 'free' starting from 2.2
see: http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/free.html#q43
Gnome is build before this.
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