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KDE vs. GNOME
flap:
What is wrong in my post? How can I just be repeating the same thing over and over again and not have you understand? Yes, the EARLIER versions of QT, e.g. the version used in KDE 1.x is non-free.
Yes, I accept that QT pre-2.2 was, and still is, non-free. The current version of QT i.e. 3.x, however, IS free. So the current version of KDE is as Free as GNOME.
insomnia:
I only answord this question.
quote:Originally posted by erosnemesis:
I was wondering what is the big deal with the 2 differenct type of sessions you can have (KDE & GNOME). I use KDE more because i can use my desktop more efficiently but i want to know what the major differences are.
Thanks
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You disagreed.
The later(free) KDE versions are irrelevant.
Gnome is build before them.
PS: I think I prooved my point. (...and yes, I know I'm annoyingly stubbish) ;)
Faust:
quote:And, no, Open Source is *not* always Free as in Freedom.
*YES IT IS
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No it's not. For those who pay lots of money Microsofts "shared source" is most certainly open but it isn't free.
quote:There are many Open Source software projects that are not free.
*EXACTLTY MY POINT
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Er you just contradicted yourself...
quote:Free Software on the other hand *is* always 'Open Source'.
*WRONG. SHAREWARE IS FREE BUT ISN'T OPEN SOURCE.
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FFS FREE AS IN FREEDOM
quote:I don't think you understand the difference between Free Software and Open Source. Read the link in
*I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT YOU THINK. (I never do, so don't take this as an insult.)
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If you read the link you would understand.
quote:...cause I believe in both "Open Source" and "Free Software Movement".
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The open source movement is beneficial in that they help the movement towards freedom, but Free is better than Open.
quote:PS:KDE is a very good Open Source environment but ISN'T Open Source itself. Please DO check the Licence off ALL the KDE parts.
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KDE was always open source. The libraries it depended upon were open source. But they WERENT FREE.
quote:
They only claim it's later versions became Free Software and Open Source. You still need those LICENSED Qt libs for earlier KDE versions (still usefull for old computers).
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Yes QT was open ("access to the source code") but NOT Free.
quote:KDE IS NOT ENTIRELY 'OPEN SOURCE' AND 'FREE SOFTWARE'.
THIS REALLY WAS THE MAIN REASON TO BUILD GNOME.
(...and flap's silly insults can't change this)
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KDE is and always was entirely open source. It is now ALSO entirely Free. BTW your misinformed opinion cant change this. ;)
quote:Only one month ago, I still needed an early version to build a desk based on KDE 1.x.
I don't think Trolltech would ever sue anyone for using it without their permission, but legally they have the right to do this.
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Yes KDE *NOW* ie current versions is free. The KDE used *previously* was not but was open source and depended upon open source parts. You have read a lot on QT but you havent read much on what Freedom is.
quote:
I don't think Trolltech would ever sue anyone for using it without their permission, but legally they have the right to do this.
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No they cant. The license it was under meant it was available for personal use for no money with source just not Free. YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MEANT BY FREE HERE. Read the link in Flaps sig.
quote:You disagreed.
The later(free) KDE versions are irrelevant.
Gnome is build before them.
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They arent irrelevant. They are the current version so CURRENTLY Kde is free. Mozilla was closed at one stage, then it went to open, now it is free. Please try and learn the distinction.
quote:PS: I think I prooved my point. (...and yes, I know I'm annoyingly stubbish)
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No you did not, and the word is "childish" not "stubborn."
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
Siplus:
hmm...despite the current argument going on (i have nothing to contribute)...
i have been using Gnome in Redhat 8 and 9 for a while now, and i'm happy with it. i have installed KDE, but never used it, so i can't help you there.
and still i don't know if you should listen to me because i am using a modified WM from redhat...
this has been a pointless post :(
insomnia:
quote:Originally posted by Faust:
No you did not, and the word is "childish" not "stubborn."
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
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Your know fun, I don't think I've ever seen so many mistakes in one post. (a joke?)
:eek: :eek: :eek:
If not, do u're self a favour and read this:
http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.php
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: insomnia ]
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