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AmericanBastard:
Ummm, The previous debate was niether informative nor educational...could someone please explain to me axactly what all this free as in freedom stuff is about...also to know is as in knowledge, no is a negative statement as in "You're no fun!"  sorry, just one of my pet peaves  :D

suselinux:
Free has a couple of meanings

either free as in no cash value

of free as in no bindings

this is the debate

 when an opensource product is free, is it free or is it free

can you get it for nothing, or is it open and unbound from conventional patents

AmericanBastard:
ohhhhhhhhh now i get it
carry on  :D

flap:

quote:when an opensource product is free, is it free or is it free
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That's not the point being debated; it's not a question that can be answered. It's like saying "If someone writes a book, is it in English?" It's perfectly possible to write a piece of software and release it under Open Source but very unambiguously Non-Free conditions. For something to be Free Software it must be unambiguously free, and one of the many freedoms implicit in this is the freedom for everyone to study the source code i.e. the only freedom the Open Source movement is interested in.

 
quote:can you get it for nothing, or is it open and unbound from conventional patents
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The issue is copyright, not patents. Also, whether or not you can get the software for nothing doesn't necessarily have any bearing on it being either OSS or FS.

 
quote:Ummm, The previous debate was niether informative nor educational...could someone please explain to me axactly what all this free as in freedom stuff is about...also to know is as in knowledge, no is a negative statement as in "You're no fun!" sorry, just one of my pet peaves
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Read the link in my sig.

AmericanBastard:
I'll read the link...Hopefully it will clearly define the difference between freeware, shareware, addaware and free...I just wanna learn  :D  and am still confused on this whole ftp downloading thing...just wanna try out SuSe and can't even get the friggin thing started...anyway that's off topic, am glad ya'll cleared that up for me!!!

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