Operating Systems > Linux and UNIX
Ok soon I shall take that Linuxy plunge, however...
Tonerman:
Since I didn't see anyone address it..
KDE Vs Gnome..
I use Gnome Red Hat 7.2
but I installed KDE cause it has some simple games I like.. and the dialer.. anyhoo.. if you have the space.... install both.. and the switcher prog.. than you can go back and forth..
but.. KDE is more... Windowesk. If you have trouble going from windows to Linux.. use KDE for a lil while...
But Gnome is good in the end.
But, either way.. learn to run things from the terminal... It may save you ass...
killall -KILL wine
hehe, I screwd up and froze my screen over with the Wine screeen for StarCraft... a lil alt tabing and that command
but yeah, if you install GRUB and don't do the graphical start up. or set Xwindows to start in graphical mode automatically...
after you log in.. StartX will obviously start X...
other obvious ones are..
reboot
halt(shuts the system down)
logout or exit. these will log you out if you are outside of X. so you can come in under a different username.. say... my personal one.. instead of root.
another useful one it. linuxconf And Xconfigurator(check my spelling someone, I suck at it..)
netconf sndconfig mouseconfig these a simple config programs.. some may be graphical.. some text.. eitherway, useful.
*racks brain for useful simple command*
gtop or ktop depending wether KDE or GNOME is installed.. let's you see everything that is running. and kill anything you need to.
gedit nice simple text editor.
mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
will mount the floppy drive
mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
mounts the cdrom
umount /mnt/floppy
umount /mnt/cdrom
the unmounting stuff
These are just some of the random commands that are useful. to me at least. look for more online for anything you need.
I learned linux from 5.1 Redhat using mostly keyboard command.. so..yeah hehe
lazygamer:
quote:But before installing Mandrake, it is strongly recommended that you run Disk Defragmenter and ScanDisk from within Windows on the drive.
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Ok suppose I installed Windows 98 onto a freshly formatted harddrive, isn't a format every bit as good as a defrag and scandisk?
linux-newbie:
quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:
I believe my brother mentioned that he feels you can't mix win XP and Win98 on the same harddrive. Of course im not sure if that was refering to the same partition or not. But simple is best, and that's what this has to be.
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OK - that answers one question. I agree that for this case simple is best (see rest of reply).
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My plan was to keep the 40gig for XP, but mainly a repository for big shit(read :p rograms) in XP, W98 and Linux. I mean it is possible for Linux to access my big D drive(also note that my 40 gig D drive would not need to be formatted at all, it can just stay as is. Although later I want to format it and re-install X-pee).
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Yes.
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Holy shit Linux newbie your scaring me, fuck I'd quote you but Wind0ze is being gay and not copying text right. I mean im very uncomfortable that even my help would understand what you just said or just say "nah let's do it this way". :)
Isn't it just as simple as
A)Boot from windows 95 CD
A)Format 8 gig(C and E)
B)create a giant 8 gig C partition
C)Install wind0ze onto that partition
D)Boot from Mandrake CD
E)Mandrake adjusts wind0ze C partition and installs it self in the new partition
F)And where outta here ;)
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There is one major addition to your post - you want Linux to be a "test" - to try out. This changes how I would reply.
First, simple is better. Given your findings regarding XP, I would do the Linux install and BOOT TO A LINUX FLOPPY. No mess, no fuss, no boot manager problems. After all, you just want the ability to play with and learn Linux, right? Then do the install and boot to floppy.
Follow your ideas (above) with one small revision. In step "A)Format 8 gig(C and E)" you should run FDISK.Make a 1GB to 3GBB primary partition (C:) and deelete your current E: partition (that will be the free space for Linux). The complete your steps as you outlined but during the Linux install, select to boot from a floppy. Don't forget to change your BIOS setup at the end so FIRST BOOT DEVICE=FLOPPY and SECOND BOOT DEVICE=HDD 0.
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I mean shit like motherboard jumper adjusting, wierd partitions etc. ARRRRGH! I want this to be simple dude, much easier to do, less paranoia about deadends(given by a super paranoid father and a worrywart mother).
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Uhmm, this is simple - it is as basic as it can get when opening the hood for a DOS-computer.
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Besides, Linux gets this small little cubby hole to prove itself to an evil, accursed blood line of wind0ze worshipers(well not exactly "worship", more like "accept").
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That is the key statement to your entire thread. Had you said that in your first post this thread would have ended long ago.
Regards,
Linux-Newbie
lazygamer:
Much thanks Linux newbie. Well when I first came here I was just thinking "try it out", but now I realize Linux is my future. The people here have done such a good job convincing me of Linux's power and MS's stupidity that I honestly could not happily just go back to windows like before.
I know in my heart the relationship with windows has to end. In all reality, im 100% positive Linux is my future and I'll love it far more then I do windows(which I don't love), call it blind faith if you will. In my mind, "trying it out" is really just an excuse to get the damn thing on my HD. Once I prove how l33t it is to my family(luckily I have a family who is indiffernt to windows BS and can be swayed in the other direction with sufficient proof), it's getting more then a cubby hole.
choasforages:
well, if only my dad would belive in linux also. but i could try even harder.
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