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Anyone run real UNIX on real hardware?

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voidmain:

quote:Originally posted by Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1:
So who has the actual UNIX source?
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That's not the appropriate question. All of the UNIX based operating systems on "The Open Group" certified list all are developed by each company. Many of the UNIX based OSs were derived from the original ATT UNIX, but I am pretty sure none of the original code would be used today. You need to think of UNIX as a set of standards, not as an operating system. Several operating systems have adhered to those standards and got certified which means they can call their OS a "UNIX based operating system". Now if someone were to put forth the effort (and money) they could probably get a Linux distro certified, but why?

Certification:
http://www.opengroup.org/certification/

[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

preacher:
Void man is right, however AT&T did used to own the unix name, but they sold it to Novell, who then sold it to X/Open Group.

LorKorub:
I ran Solaris 8 for a little while before I started using SuSE Linux.  I didn't take to it to well.  Hard to configure, limited hardware support, and Sun provided no support for x86 machines.

voidmain:

quote:Originally posted by Dr. Preacher Ph D.:
Void man is right, however AT&T did used to own the unix name, but they sold it to Novell, who then sold it to X/Open Group.
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And I happen to have a lot of experience with ATT UNIX before and after the name was sold to Novell and to TOG. It's funny ATT UNIX doesn't appear on the list. I guess because they sold it they no longer have the right to use the name. But as I've said before, even though I am legally wrong I consider them all to be UNIX, even Linux.

I also noticed that only specific versions of the vendor OSs are certified as UNIX. For instance, only v6.5 of SGI IRIX running on SGI MIPS R4000, R5000, R8000, and R10000 family of processors are certified. I guess that means any other version of IRIX on any other processor can not be considered a "UNIX based operating system".

Calum:

quote:Originally posted by ThePreacher:
I cant think of anyone who uses "true" Unix. BSD is a variant, as is HP-UX, Solaris, and Linux. I believe AT&T owns the rights to Unix. Here is a pic of an old Unix pc.

http://unixpc.taronga.com/
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eg fucking zactly.
there's no such thing as unix if linux is not it, if SunOS is not it and if FreeBSD is not it.
All users of unix got the code too, and were required to change it to get it to run on their machines. Those changes (such as were made by Berkeley, and later by Sun et c) of course mean that BSDs and Sun OSs are not unix, so therefore nothing is unix. not even unix, which was never comercially released, so how could anybody here be using it? i personally don't have a PDP10 kicking about to run it on anyway.

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