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M$ to manage your computer (Palladium discussion part 3)

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Calum:
anderson has this to say :  
quote:13. So economics are going to be significant here?

Exactly. The biggest profits in IT goods and services markets tend to go to companies that can establish platforms (such as Windows, or Word) and control compatibility with them, so as to manage the markets in complementary products. For example, some mobile phone vendors use challenge-response authentication to check that the phone battery is a genuine part rather than a clone - in which case, the phone will refuse to recharge it, and may even drain it as quickly as possible. Some printers authenticate their toner cartridges electronically; if you use a cheap substitute, the printer silently downgrades from 1200 dpi to 300 dpi. The Sony Playstation 2 uses similar authentication to ensure that memory cartridges were made by Sony rather than by a low-price competitor.

TCPA appears designed to maximise the effect, and thus the economic power, of such plays. Given Microsoft's record of competitive strategic plays, I expect that Palladium will support them. So if you control a TCPA-enabled application, then your policy server can enforce your choice of rules about which other applications will be allowed to use the files your code creates. These files can be protected using strong cryptography, with keys controlled by the Fritz chips on everybody's machines. What this means is that a successful TCPA-enabled application will be worth much more money to the software company that controls it, as they can rent out access to their interfaces for whatever the market will bear. So there will be huge pressures on software developers to enable their applications for TCPA; and if Palladium is the first operating system to support TCPA, this will give it a competitive advantage over GNU/Linux and MacOS with the developer community.
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lazygamer:
I sure hope all you electronics hackers are reading this shit. Please for the love of god, take this as a challenge and beat Microsoft at their own "super secure game" just because... you can. I mean hackers love proving themselves and taking on challenges right?

SpeeDFreaK:
Apple powerbook G4, here I come!

Something I just thought of...

 
quote: No one will switch, if anything this is the death of M$. No one will buy new hardware and old stuff will be at a premium.
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So, since not too many people are buying hardware and pre-built PCs anyway, wouldn't this boost their profits anyway? I can see MS going this low and spreading stuff to do this. Watch them come up one day..."Oops. Palladium was a bad idea after all. We decided to scrap it. Sorry about making you buy all of that expensive hardware(not!)...)

Refalm:
I dunno... the people at my school that know computers are saying: "If the new Windows sucks, I'll  just stick to Windows XP."

And the people not so involved in computers, want to brag to their friends that they have the latest Windows version, because this was also the case when Windows XP came out. Most people aren't involved in computers, and I think they don't care what OS they got, as long as it's working, and if they can get the latest, they buy it.

I always catagorize computer users:

1. Productive users --> They include most non-Windows users and ICT people

2. Computer know-how --> They know what their buying when they buy software... mostly, they make the choice between Windows ME, Windows 2000 or Windows XP. (these also include some non-Windows and ICT people)

3. Simple users --> Don't care what they're running, as long as its good for them. And if it's not, they buy a new thing.

4. Trendy people --> They have a computer, and they want to have the latest and most used thing so they can brag about it to their friends. This is Windows XP at the moment.

[ July 01, 2002: Message edited by: Refalm ]

Calum:

quote:Originally posted by Refalm:
I dunno... the people at my school that know computers are saying: "If the new Windows sucks, I'll  just stick to Windows XP."
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this statement speaks for itself. windows xp already sucks, did those people stick with windows 2000 as a result? no. windows millenium sucked, did they stick with windows 98? no. windows 95 sucked (as did 98 and 98se), did they stick with windows 3.11? no. Why should they not mindlessly go out and buy 'palladium'?
 
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2. Computer know-how --> They know what their buying when they buy software... mostly, they make the choice between Windows ME, Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

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Out of yr 4 categories i fit closest into this group. Personally i would not choose between winME, windows 2000 or windows P if i could possibly help it. If i needed to dual boot as i do now (due to flaky hardware) i would choose win2000, at the moment my hardware is much flakier on win2000 than it even is in linux, so i have had to go to second choice of windows 98. I can safely say that given the choice between win98 and mandrake 8, i would choose mandrake, and that's even considering the bullshit hardware support for mandrake...

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