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The Fast-Food Syndrome: The Linux Platform is Getting Fat
solarismka:
quote:Originally posted by Viper:
Well then your local staples and bestbuy are ripping you guys off.
Crucial 512MB PC3200 DDR Ram - $81
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-146-541&DEPA=0
Now where in the hell do you find a $3000 XP machine(unless you are buying from rip-offs like alienware). I never see comps go for more than $1000 at the most(alot of the machines you can get are $700 and less). I built this machine for way less than $1000.
P4 2.4C GHZ,800mhz FSB, HT o/ced to 3.2ghz at the moment on stock cooling
Abit IS7 motherboard
2 x 256MB Crucial PC3200 DDR Ram(Configured in Dual Channel DDR mode)
100GB Western Digital IDE Hard drive
80GB Maxtor SATA Hard drive
52x24x52 CD-RW
16x DVD-Rom(getting ready to add a DVD burner to the comp)
ATI Radeon 9800XT video card
SB Audigy 2(fuck that built in audio crap)
built in Ethernet/network controller
3x Firewire ports built into the board(2 6-pin 1 4-pin)
Sony floppy drive(meh, who uses floppies nowadays?)
8x USB 2.0 ports built in
Antec 460w Truepower PSU
It is a fast mother too. :D
[ July 08, 2004: Message edited by: Viper ]
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Thats an average price for a machine here in canada. Most people who go out and buy a machine do it the same way thay' buy a car. The finance it and add warrenties and stuff.
WMD:
Solaris - Viper is confused over currency exchange.
CAN$3000 = US$2250
US$700 = CAN$933
US$81 = CAN$108
So now Solaris is right.
xyle_one:
Linux isn't bloated. You can choose to install just a bare bones system, and a few apps, and you will ony be using a few hundred MBs. Debian sarge was only like 100mbs, then I installed xfree86, and Xfce4, which put it at what, like 300mb. If you go with Fedora, and install everything, yeah, it will seem bloated, but you also just installed an ass load of applications and services. Do you really need to install 37 text editors, KDE & Gnome, Koffice & OpenOffice, plus all the server apps and tools? Not really.
solarismka:
quote:Originally posted by Aloone:
[QB]Firstly anyone who says that Linux isn't bloated because they can run it on a 386 off floppys, is clearly retarded.
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Why?
If a 386 has 28mb of ram you could run a Linux box with a whole UI
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Can Linux run on 286s?
Forgive me if I'm wrong as I'm still new to linux but aren't 286s 16bit processors, and Linux is a 32bit OS?
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They can run on 386 and 486 etc. Linux is a 64bit OS.
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you shouln't have to fuck around with loads of settings and recompile shit, just to tweak the system, install software or device drivers.
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? You don't every driver is built into the kernel unlike windows where you need an install file and even then it might not work! You don't need to 'tweek' anything. Everything is setup right from the install! Including any software you would like. You do not need to compile anything. It is as simple as installing an RPM through APT-Get and synaptic. Its just a couple of clicks thats it. It will put it ion the menu and everything for you!
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I know there's no "default setting" but you can alter what gets loaded. When I mean by default, I mean the configuration the installer chooses for you.
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That depends on the distro. You can choose a 'default' desktop or you can choose what packages you want installed etc... It also partitians for you.
quote:And you JimmyJames, call me immature for saying Linsux and Winbloze, your no better for being overly critical of my spelling. I can't help suffering from dyslexia, I do my best by spell checking all my posts in openoffice.
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Just ignore Jimbo over there. He's a famous troll that only he is alowed opinions and only he thinks he is right all those with opposing opinions, thoughts and facts are idiots to him.
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256MB RAM isn't too bad, Xpee dosn't run slowly, it's more than usable,
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I've used XP at the University with 512mb ram. I couldn't even get the start button to pop up. That is with the Themes turned off!
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it only runs slowly when the shit arse Xpee theme together with all the other crap skins and effects are enabled.
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So why with 512 mb of ram and the themes turned off it still runs slow. If it runs at all?
quote:I only bought this computer a few months ago, I know it wasn't top of the range then, but already people are telling me to upgrade.
NOOOO!
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Then don't listen to them. There is not reason to 'upgrade' if you do not want to!
quote:I DON'T SEE WHY I SHOULD SPEND ANOTHER FUCKING PENNY!
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I agree with you. You shouldn't!
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This pc is more than fast enough to suit my needs Xpee isn't that slow and unresponsive. It runs Firefox and openoffice fairly well, It can burn CDs well too.
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Good for you. But even with a new PC XP is very unstable, insecure and hard to use! With the new SP2 I can see why many people upgrade just to keep the M$ OS fed! I also see no reason WHY XP needs a mionimum 1gig of ram just to do normal work when my machine running Linux can do it in half that!
quote:I was happy with my P200, the only reason why I upgraded the whole unit because I fucked the old one up!
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So am I./ I have a couple of p2's and they run great!
quote:I originally just wanted to add a CD burner, when the cover was off I spilt my drink.
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Ohhh that had to be frustrating.
quote:If it wasn't for that I would still be stuck with a P200 running Win95 and M$ office!
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Or you could have run Linux with KDE and all the latest software. No upgrades to hardware!
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Back in the day used to be a bit of a computer geek, I liked seeing what I could run on the shitteyest hardware.
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So was I then I met Linux! No more configuring the registry and .dll files!
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I remember, and I know this sound's unbelievable.
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Why would it. I believe alot of what you have said and have no reason not to.
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One rainy day I was bored (correct spelling I hope)
I decided to install Win3.1 on a 4MB RAM drive on a 8MB 486.
It worked too! lol
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Hehe. ah 3.1 those were the days!
quote:I didn't have good internet access. (it cost 1p per min)
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Wow that sux!
quote:I didn't even know that Linux existed.
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Neather did I untill I got into the server buisness way back when.
quote:About 5 years ago I totally lost interest in computers when I did a computing A level, what was a hobby had became hard work, I hated it.
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I used to feel the same way when I became an admin. It sucked to look after a machnine night and day just to keep the viruses and spyware out etc....
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Until very recently I didn't know how much computers had evolved, as I wasn't using them for work.
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Neather did I. I love how far Linux has come!
quote:The only PC I used was my P200.
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A commador 64 was my first one!
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We switched telecommunications provider to get unmetered Internet access, bought this new PC, then I discovered this website along with Linux.
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cool, hope you have fun!
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I was happy enough with my old P200.
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No doubt you were!
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I'm sure at least some of you people must be able to remember the old 16 bit way, where you had just 640K for your programs to run in, you had to swap your code in and out of extended memory if you wanted more than that.
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yep I do! LOL good times!
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I still haven't regained any interest, bloatware has put me off even more.
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No doubt it has for me too. I find it all too common with M$ software!
quote:Now we have lot's of memory and what do we do with it?
Waste it on running bloat.
It's just disgusting.
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I agree!
solarismka:
quote:Originally posted by WMD:
Solaris - Viper is confused over currency exchange.
CAN$3000 = US$2250
US$700 = CAN$933
US$81 = CAN$108
So now Solaris is right.
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Ah! oh ok...
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