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hai_ok:
Faust-
I consider all variations of Unix to be Linux.
Perhaps I'm wrong to think of them this way. I adore and admire their power, flexibility and stability. So I'm being generally affectionate when I refer to them this way. And I'm not trying to offend anyones exacting sensibilities.

Laukev7-
My misguided paranoia is quite well founded in practical experience. If you are just paranoid, then you are not paranoid enough.

And rewriting code to free ones self from the bonds of copyright is what Linus did. It sounds like the BSD people did it too.

everyone-

There are entirely too many groups out there claiming that they are "Unix-Like".

Nearly anyone can make this claim. If they want to distinguish themselves at all, why don't they claim to be nothing like Unix? But, "Unix-Like"? This phrase is overused and means practically nothing. If anything it means, almost, but not quite Unix! It more than likely means a watered down, luke warm, room temperature, garden variety OS that may bare some vague or even remote likeness to Unix.

You want Unix like, get Slackware. Do your homework. That is closer than anything else.

If it makes you feel better to make the distinction, then fine. But to me it's all just Linux.

I hate forums.

jasonlane:

quote:There are entirely too many groups out there claiming that they are "Unix-Like".

Nearly anyone can make this claim. If they want to distinguish themselves at all, why don't they claim to be nothing like Unix? But, "Unix-Like"? This phrase is overused and means practically nothing. If anything it means, almost, but not quite Unix! It more than likely means a watered down, luke warm, room temperature, garden variety OS that may bare some vague or even remote likeness to Unix.  
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Hmmm... I think there are groups out there that would readily associate themself with Unix or the Open source movement. However this is not to say that there all directly involved with OS development or the OS per se. Groups like the Apache Software Foundation are keen to be allied to both these groups. Or how about OpenOffice?

Whilst some of them may produce products that span OS's it obvious were there allegiances lay.

I think the term Linux or Unix is in such common usage now that it use may be commonly misapplied but not always misguided.

hai_ok:
ok

flap:

quote:I consider all variations of Unix to be Linux.
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Huh? That's like saying you consider all flavours of ice-cream to be chocolate.

 
quote:Nearly anyone can make this claim. If they want to distinguish themselves at all, why don't they claim to be nothing like Unix? But, "Unix-Like"? This phrase is overused and means practically nothing.
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No, it does mean something - it means 'Unix-like'. GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, HP-UX and every other 'Unix-like' system all operate similarly and are each a deliberate implementation of a Unix-type system.

hai_ok:
You don't think it is overused?
If you are talking Ice Cream, then ok, different OSes are all different Ice Cream Flavors...

Most peoples idea of Unix-like is chocolate with sprinkles on top. And then they call it their own Unix-Like OS, when really... most of them are just Linux with a few unique toppings.

I'm just saying that there are almost none (with few exceptions) who have contributed a really unique recipe to the 31 flavors. Like Apple. They only really make Syrup anymore...

There would not be 31 flavors of OS-cream though.
Windows would be Vanilla.
And ok, Unix, and variations of it are chocolate and mocha and coco...
and MacOS is Strawberry.
There are some older flavors. But no one sells them anymore. And I can't even buy Strawberry unless I can find it on ebay... Or you wanna pay like 3 to 5 times more than vanilla.

But chocolate is free!

Or if Unix is chocolate then Unix-Like must be chocolate syrup. But don't try and tell me that you can just make something Unix-Like, just by adding syrup.

It could be a bowl of dog fecies. But I wouldn't eat it.

Unix is really more like caffeine.
You can make a drink without it.
But, why?

[ August 01, 2003: Message edited by: hai_ok ]

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