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PROFESSIONAL SOFTWARE.....GROUP PROJECT?
creedon:
quote:Originally posted by choasmaster:
and i noticed that you are going to use autocad r13, i noticed on www.winehq.com that r14 is rated better under wine then under native windows
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Well, here comes the Debian freak again!!
As I was updating my apt sources today, I went to a site called UNOFFICIAL apt sources (applications that aren't included in Debians package lists). While looking around, I found an app called LeoCAD. Now, this isn't something that would work as a commercial-use application, and I want to stress that. BUT, the groundwork IS done on a 3-D open source CAD program. I know that a lot of basic CAD applications exist for Linux, but none of them are at a daily-use level that could be used in place of the current (and much more polished) Microsoft- based systems. I'm not avocating starting an endless attempt to build a suite of seamless professional Linux applications that will work out-of-the-box like MS programs, but I would like to see an initiative that would allow us to incorporate native Linux apps to replace emulated MS programs as they become available. This has been one of the areas of opportunity that has been ignored by Linux proponents as far as I can see. As long as projects like this look at emulation of MS programs as an open-ended solution to the lack of professional-level technical applications, the basic attraction of Linux from a business viewpoint will remain un-attractive; what's the point of making the switch to Linux if you still have to maintain a library of Windows programs because Linux doesn't have comparable applications? In business, the bottom line is ALWAYS the bottom line. It's short-sighted to look at emulation as a long-term solution to a lack of applications.
choasmaster:
but it is great for the shortterm. if you could only switch 90% of your app's to linux and could only emulate the other 10%, i still think that would be worth it. and have you ever looked into pro e/*probably not, its insanly expensive*/
creedon:
OOPS, I don't want anyone to get the idea that I'm not 100% behind this poject, on the contrary, I think that it's a long over due idea; but I DO think that we have to look ahead; like Trotsky said, the revolution will never end, but must continue to evolve.
choasmaster:
and for building and endless suite of linux applications, don't we have openoffice, its almost endless/*if your thinking about compiling it that is :D */ and it supports lots of things. i think we need opensource analogues of this stuff. and who knows, someone might have phun writnig a cad program. and the opensource cad program might get so damned good major companinies might base there products off of it. kinda like the relationship between sun and openoffice.org. but then agian for this to happen, people are going to have to say "lets write a kickass cad program that can compete and beat autocad and maybe even pro e" and for cad workstations, the solarise admin/*atleast that's what his job sounds like*/ that lives down the street, i heard they bought a cad workstation from sun a bit ago and it cost them like $60,000
Sleeping Dog:
I agree with the sentiments.
In this case, making PhotoShop 5.5 and AutoCAD 13 run under LINUX is akin to keeping the "Model C Supermicrometer" operational. The words "software" and "tools" are synonymous. I selected AutoCAD 13 because I happen to have a full copy of it on floppies and I do not personally own a later version.
High-end software has not, to date, been ported to LINUX for two reasons. 1. - The development community presently lacks high-speed, GUI type tools for doing the porting. Most of work of that nature is still being done on a pure code (slower) level. 2. - Until there are A LOT more business people using LINUX as their PRIMARY DESKTOP AND SERVER OS solution, the economic incentives for transitioning will not be there. Money moves the machines.
Therefore, a project like this one serves as a First Step in demonstrating that a transition to LINUX does not mean that a person or business has to "re-tool" and trash all of their existing software/tools in order to make the move. You (and Trotsky) are right, Creedon. "...the revolution will never end, but must continue to evolve." Regretably, the evolution seems to me moving like a herd of turtles.
Rumor has it that ProE (a high end professional 3D
CAD)is supposed to be releasing a LINUX/UNIX version in late fall. The five day intorductory course for ProE costs 15-Thousand Dollars(US) per person. That does not include any software. You can imagine what the software costs per license. In these tougher economic times, you will not find a lot of business throwing bucks at new or updated software while the bean-counters are telling the managers to "keep costs down".
On a lighter note....Any more input on setting up/partitioning hda and hdb? What do you guys think regarding the locations on those HD's of the boot, root, swap, etc. partitions? Should the partition holding the Win apps be FAT 32?
Best To All Of You
Sleeping Dog
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