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PROFESSIONAL SOFTWARE.....GROUP PROJECT?
choasmaster:
for the companies buy Pro e, price is not a concern. the bean counters are probably too busy cooking the books anyway
creedon:
quote:Originally posted by Sleeping Dog:
I agree with the sentiments.
In this case, making PhotoShop 5.5 and AutoCAD 13 run under LINUX is akin to keeping the "Model C Supermicrometer" operational. The words "software" and "tools" are synonymous. I selected AutoCAD 13 because I happen to have a full copy of it on floppies and I do not personally own a later version.
High-end software has not, to date, been ported to LINUX for two reasons. 1. - The development community presently lacks high-speed, GUI type tools for doing the porting. Most of work of that nature is still being done on a pure code (slower) level. 2. - Until there are A LOT more business people using LINUX as their PRIMARY DESKTOP AND SERVER OS solution, the economic incentives for transitioning will not be there. Money moves the machines.
Therefore, a project like this one serves as a First Step in demonstrating that a transition to LINUX does not mean that a person or business has to "re-tool" and trash all of their existing software/tools in order to make the move. You (and Trotsky) are right, Creedon. "...the revolution will never end, but must continue to evolve." Regretably, the evolution seems to me moving like a herd of turtles.
Rumor has it that ProE (a high end professional 3D
CAD)is supposed to be releasing a LINUX/UNIX version in late fall. The five day intorductory course for ProE costs 15-Thousand Dollars(US) per person. That does not include any software. You can imagine what the software costs per license. In these tougher economic times, you will not find a lot of business throwing bucks at new or updated software while the bean-counters are telling the managers to "keep costs down".
On a lighter note....Any more input on setting up/partitioning hda and hdb? What do you guys think regarding the locations on those HD's of the boot, root, swap, etc. partitions? Should the partition holding the Win apps be FAT 32?
Best To All Of You
Sleeping Dog
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I'm in full agreement with what you said. I don't want to give any kind of negative impression, I'm a Linux advocate to the core. That being said, I do have a habit of acting as "Devils Advocate"; I think that all projects need someone to point out alternatives in choice- there's no plan that's set in stone, that kind of thinking will end up causing problems. On the other hand, if someone can give me hard facts that convince me they're right, I'll give them as much co-operation as I can.
The one undeniable fact about open source software is that there are a tremendous number of really good people writing really good applications continually. The other undeniable fact about open source is that, ever though the first statement is true, the information that an individual (or, in our case, group of individuals)needs may never reach their notice. Finding specific open source applications is difficult; there's little commonality between the distributions, and the advocates of those distributions. When you start talking source code, the situation becomes even more confused.
I firmly believe that there is a viable alternative to every MS-based program on the market today. I also think that, reverting to our project, that practical implimentation of a pure open source suite of business/technical applications isn't possible AT THIS TIME. I think that, in the interest of expediency, some of our applications will have to be emulations of MS programs, but I want to leave that open-ended: if one of the members of the project finds a suitable alternative to an emulated MS program, we should, as a body, review the alternative and using majority rules approve or disapprove it's use in preference to an MS program.
Well, I guess I've shot my mouth off enough (I do that, it's the old hippie activist in me). I'm not really the overbearing asshole I seem to be, and I think I've wandered far afield from our original concept, but I'm just expressing things from my own limited perspective.
Sleeping Dog, the wheels are turning; you'll have the Debian set as soon as I can get it to you, I'll be in touch.
BTW: regarding partitioning, I think that the only thing that we should be concerned about would be /usr/local; that's where the most things we need to be concerned about reside: swap would be 2X the installed RAM.
Sleeping Dog:
Hi Folks.....I'm back. Had to go out of town for a couple of days and was unable to post.
An update on the Proxy Box. 64 MB of RAM is the best I can do for now. I thought that I would be able to use a 64 and a 32 for a total of 96, but the 64 module has a bad chip on it. Therefore, two 32's will have to do.
According to the BIOS, I should be able to boot from the HD, the flop or the CD. I have DrDOS on it now for utility purposes, but it does not have to stay there.
Creedon is sending the Debian CD's to me. I will let you guys know when they arrive so that we can start the load. Again....I will need everyone's input on your partitioning plan. (sizes, locations, etc. for hda and hdb)
Have a Great Week
Sleeping Dog
Sleeping Dog:
Just A Note About PhotoShop
PhotoShop caches the images that are open into a disk area that they refer to as "Scratch Disks". Because this is a "Windows" version of the software, it will be "looking for" this space using the DOS type C:\ file structure. High res images can sometimes require as much as 400+ meg of "Scratch Disk" space while they are being edited. Therefore, your formatting and disk structuring strategy will need to take this into account.
And A Note About AutoCAD
AutoCAD's auto-save (backup) function, by default, also looks for a DOS style path (C:\etc.etc)
I double-checked on the sizes of the two apps. The AutoCAD program needs 300 MB of space and PhotoShop needs 100 MB (not including the scratch disk area). A one Gig DOS style partition on the 1.2 Gig HD might be what is needed for the two apps to have all the room that they require.
Cheers and Beers
Sleeping Dog
Sleeping Dog:
Hi Boys and Girls.
Can you spell "Plotter".
Very good....I knew you could....
For the Proxy Box we have a new (old) toy to add. It is a Calcomp 1044 Plotter (pen plotter).
Be looking for LINUX or even UNIX drivers that will work with this dog. I can tell you that almost all UNIX or even NT server based platforms will require a "plot to file" type setup if not a true spooler.....
but that is for later...
Creedon is sending the disks....once we are good and loaded, then the real fun begins.
(Isn't that what she always says?)
Keep it Close
Sleeping Dog
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