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OK *nix heads, what should I do?
hm_murdock:
1) BeOS Max is the original BeOS codebase. There are several OSS Be derivatives. Last time I checked, our intrepid gundam pilot here wasn't concerned with Open Sourcedness
2) All of those mentioned. Be OS Max runs equally well on VPC5 and 6 as it does on a PMMX 233 with an S3 ViRGE, and a Celeron 633 with GeForce4. All my hardware is supported.
3) It's based on Be OS. I don't understand the assumption that everything has to be "based on" something else. Maybe every now and then someone creates their own fucking OS.
4) That's your opinion, stop stating it as fact. he's used to Macs, and Be will be more akin to the classic Mac OS, and therefore more like Mac OS X. I don't know how much experience Duo has with other platforms. All I know is that he knows Macs, and I'm suggesting to him an OS with a similar UI... as Be is based heavily on the classic Mac OS.
5) Less, but software is more like Mac OS, and therefore is simpler in nature, and higher quality.
6) Most Be software is contained in a single icon. You don't need management. Again, some people actually strive to be better and come up with something that's not just another UNIX. Be's idea for packages comes from NeXT. Fuck aptget. I'd rather drag an icon.
7) Because it's not UNIX. It's got a POSIX layer and can run some UNIXish command-line junk, but Be, like Mac OS or NT, is graphical from its core. That makes it inherently easier.
As for the statement that Be is dead... you *could* say that. The Be OS codebase continues though. YellowTab Zeta, BlueEyed OS, and several others are continuing development.
Duo, if you've got AIM or iChat, or any AIM client, IM me at murdock160
Laukev7:
quote:4) That's your opinion, stop stating it as fact. he's used to Macs, and Be will be more akin to the classic Mac OS, and therefore more like Mac OS X. I don't know how much experience Duo has with other platforms. All I know is that he knows Macs, and I'm suggesting to him an OS with a similar UI... as Be is based heavily on the classic Mac OS.]
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I think Linux User was asking those questions for himself.
insomnia:
quote:How much hardware support will you ever need on an old crap-box Wintel?
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More than on a new one.
quote:Powerless? Have you even used BeOS? It has unix-style command line (sh), like Linux and FreeBSD. It's very stable, like other unices.
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I still use it.
It's nice. But their's not enough support for it.
quote: It was Apple's first choice to be used for their OS X, before they decided to use OpenStep instead.
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I'm not a big fan of OS X.
quote:It boots in a few seconds, unlike Linux.
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You can boot any unix just as fast. In default, Linux boots slower, this is cause it loads a bigger kernel into your memory. Since you don't have to reboot a server based system, this does make your system run faster.
quote:It has an easy, way better windowing interface than that old, clunky X11 piece of shit. And yes, you can even install X11 on BeOS, and with only a few mouse clicks.
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You don't understand X11.
quote:No future? Ever heard of YellowTab, OpenBeOS, Blue Eyed OS?
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...that's all?
(Hopefully for BeOS that's enough, but I doubt it...)
quote:Still, if you want to make a server, then FreeBSD is an excellent choice.
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Most UNIX based systems are excellent servers.
Laukev7:
quote: But their's not enough support for it.
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The issue here is not support. Duo already has a well-supported computer that runs OS X.
quote: I'm not a big fan of OS X.
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I am. And Duo Maxwell appears to be one as well.
quote: You can boot any unix just as fast. In default, Linux boots slower, this is cause it loads a bigger kernel into your memory. Since you don't have to reboot a server based system, this does make your system run faster.
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I know about the services and the bigger kernel. I customise my FreeBSD kernel to make it load faster.
quote: You don't understand X11.
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Many people more knowledgeable than I am hate X11. It's tedious to configure and dated. It's not for nothing that Apple, BeOS and AtheOS, don't use it by default. There are even community projects like Fresco are aiming to offer a better alternative to X11.
quote: ...that's all?
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http://www.cosmoe.com/
http://www.beosmax.org/main.php
http://www.beunited.org/
http://befree.berlios.de/
hm_murdock:
quote: I'm not a big fan of OS X.
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Who fucking asked you?
You're not looking for an OS to run, HE IS. If you can't offer useful suggestions, then fuck off.
quote: You don't understand X11.
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You're right. i don't. I don't understand how a tired ass, outmoded, low-tech, last-generation, dead-end turd like X11 still hangs around. And what the fuck does your statement mean anyway? Because he states that Be's framework is better (look at the tech specs... IT IS), and that you can install an X11 layer on Be... he "doesn't understand"...
One question...
DID YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAID?
I don't believe you did. Every other graphics framework is better than X11, even GDI. Yes, WINDOWS XP HAS A BETTER GRAPHIC FRAMEWORK.
Duo, if these guys haven't scared you off, IM me man... murdock160 on AIM. I'll talk to you straight, and we'll get something picked out.
And if you'll let me borrow Deathscythe, I'll end this petty squabbling! :D
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