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OK *nix heads, what should I do?
preacher:
quote:Originally posted by jeffberg: Mac Capitalist:
And the GUI won't crash on you like X11 does every 5 minutes.
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Well look at this. It is obvious you know nothing about the stability of X. X-Windows almost never crashes on me, and i have kept X windows up for over 100 days before with constant use and no problems. You just keep telling yourself that BeOS is better than linux and I will keep laughing.
http://hackthiscomputer.cjb.net/morethan5minutes.png
preacher:
quote:Originally posted by Darth Jimmy James:
BlackBox isn't integral, either. And they all ride on X11... and X11 SUCKS ASS. What does it take to get that through?!?
And you've obviously never used any of the older Macs. Let's see your precious Linux haul a full-color GUI around on a 16 MHz 68030
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I never said blackbox was integral. My point was that with a light weight window manager, and not a resource hog like KDE or Gnome, the gui is much quicker. Besides this argument is linux versus mac, it is linux versus BeOS.
Right now linux is far better supported than BeOS. In fact OpenBSD and NetBSD are far better supported than BeOS. BeOS probably doesnt have much of a future right now, this might change if *nix users give up their better supported more updated OS and embrace BeOS head on, however I dont see this happening.
This comes back to whether windows users should try linux or any other alternative operating system. The truth is that you will end up with less support, less software, less knowledge about the OS when you sway away from the mainstream. This alone scares people away from trying a new and different OS. Me telling you not to use BeOS for the same reason that people told me not to use linux would be wrong. Use what you wish to use.
Duo Maxwell:
quote:Originally posted by Darth Jimmy James:
Duo, if these guys haven't scared you off, IM me man... murdock160 on AIM. I'll talk to you straight, and we'll get something picked out.
And if you'll let me borrow Deathscythe, I'll end this petty squabbling! :D
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What me scared off!? I wouldn't dream of it. I'm The Great Destroyer, how could a guy with a Piloting handle like that be scared off?
Sure You can barrow the Death Scythe Hell, I'm still using the original, and I'm looking for spare parts on the Custom.
But all that aside, The specs I have to work with are an old cartage type Pentium 2 300Mhz, which piss me the hell off since I just got through putting a an 800Mhz P2 in place of a 700Mhz P2 in another cousins computer and kept the 700 thinking I could use it. 128Mb-O-ram and winblow$ says the drive is a mere 2Gb. So will what you guys have been suggesting work on this very meager setup? I cant get a mouse to work on it or can remember how to erase a win98 install, but I'm kinda proficient at running winblow$ with just a keyboard.
At the very least I got a free IBM 2 button=scroll wheel optical mouse. works great under OS X!
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Laukev7:
quote:Originally posted by ThePreacher:
Well look at this. It is obvious you know nothing about the stability of X. X-Windows almost never crashes on me, and i have kept X windows up for over 100 days before with constant use and no problems. You just keep telling yourself that BeOS is better than linux and I will keep laughing.
http://hackthiscomputer.cjb.net/morethan5minutes.png
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Strange. BeOS was the first alternative OS I've used on the x86 (not including Mac emulation), and I liked it much more than any Linux distro I used subsequently.
I have not had any X11 crash either, but it certainly isn't the greatest GUI manager out there. I've heard of many Linux users much more experienced than I am who hate X11, so I suspect it's not only a question of savoir faire. Even with an extensive knowledge of X11, it remains clunky and tedious to configure. Just because you know how to use X11 doesn't mean it is an enjoyable experience.
I don't know exactly why you consider Linux better than BeOS, assuming you have even used the latter. It has the same command line interface as Linux (although not fullscreen), and the configuration files work the same. Many of the major free/open source apps are available for BeOS. I haven't had any more crashes with BeOS than Linux, and as I said, if you really want to you can install X11 and Enlightenment, or any WM available for BeOS.
Edit: Damn, late again. Oh, well.
[ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7: Has half Macman's posts ]
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