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hoojchoons:
Well, since my last post I reconsidered some things about these forums. When I registered, I really expected more from some of you guys here, like at least an open mind or some constructive discussion about the future of other, non M$, operating systems. Apart from some exceptions, like VoidMain and others who really know what they're saying, I was really dissapointed by some of you guys here. So, since this is my last post, thanks for the hospitality...
Special thanks to you VoidMain for your great help, since you were the only one who gave me serious answers.
Calum:
firstly good riddance to you, if that is what you truly think. I take your comments as the thinly disguised insult that they were. I prefer an honest insult. Just because people do not agree with you is no reason to go off and sulk. You seem to have the same idea of what an open mind is as zombie54654674527 does.
quote:Originally posted by hoojchoons:
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[Posted by Calum:
that'll be your territorial instincts showing through]
What the fuck are you talking about???
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I'm saying that what you said suggests territorialism to me. Also i was being sarcastic/joking. Despite many people's opinions, i have a sense of humour.
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[..,GNU/Linux is not a company..]
Oh, really? Hmmm, that's something new for me to learn. How did I miss such an important detail in my five years of using Linux? :eek:
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You must have been living in a hermetically sealed hole for all of those years then. GNU is a registered charity, linux is an open source kernel that people develop in their own time.
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[...and therefore its development is not hindered or helped by how many users are actually using it. Number of developers yes, number of users no.]
Then, who are those developers developing it for? Themselves?
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Yes, themselves, or "the good of the community"
Many tools have been written and GPLd because somebody automated a function that was too tedious or fiddly to do by hand every time, so they wrote the tool, and reasoned that it would do no harm to distribute it to other people. That is what free software is all about.
quote:Oh boy you're so wrong here! I myself have been taking part as a user and not a developer for the past two years in the Greek translation of KDE (package kde-i18n-el). In most cases my friend, a user is also the developer in GNU/Linux. You don't only have to be a coder or a Network engineer to participate in the development of GNU/Linux!!! That's the beauty of Open source. That's why I do care about how many people use it on their machines ;)
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That is what i just said. You have just said that the developers develop the software for themselves. The only problem with what you say is that, while we agree, you would rather concoct arbitrary differences in order to give yourself the illusion of standing on the intellectual high ground.
quote:[so you only wanted to state that? not to see anybody actually respond with their own opinions?]
to state = to affirm, to articulate, to assert, to aver, to declare, to EXPLAIN, to expound, to EXPRESS, to PRESENT, to report etc. Why would I start a topic my friend, if I didn't want to here everyone's opinions? as for the verb "to state" you can look it up in a dictionary or thesaurus (another Greek word I love), just to refresh your English!!
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Are you seriously saying i cannot communicate in English? whether i can or not is, incidentally irrelevant. People who do not have good english are in no way less intelligent than english speakers, as i am sure you know. Surely you know that to state something is to tell other people it. If you want discussion, you discuss, or debate, or argue, or compare, or rationalise, or question, just to refresh your english.
quote:[I think it's just as bad to want to see Linux dominate the market place as it is to want to see windows dominate it....]
Again, I never used the word "dominate". I just said something about Linux prevailing as in Linux succeeding, triumphing, winning over MicroSoft's truly evil business practises. Please, think first before misjudging someone. In your own words "..I'll be using my brain to make decisions, thanks...". That's all...
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I didn't judge you in the least. I did not say "dominate" as if it was a quote. Yet again, dominate and prevail are very similar in concept and usage. I was in fact questioning what you had to say, not insulting you in particular. The very fact that you not only choose to take umbrage and leave the forums, but also choose to publicly deride the people here shows me just how much you need to work on your attitude towards criticism.
I hope to see you posting here again when you have got over it as i personally think you seem very intelligent and have a lot to say. However i will not be agreeing with you as a matter of course. Also, if and when i do not agree with someone, it is not because i am closed minded. Surprisingly to many people, it is because i do not think that what they seem to be saying sounds right when their statement is taken to mean what i think it means.
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hoojchoons:
I feel the need to apologise to you Calum. You were a lot more clear in your last post and I think I was really harsh on you previously. I'm the one who misjudged you. Looks like I'm posting here again! How can I live without you guys? As I mentioned in another thread, I've been watching these forums anonymously since November last year but didn't want to register. So, it's become like a habit of mine to come here and check on the forums. Again man, my apologies to you if my posts were insulting and as I said before we seem to be saying the same thing! We basically agree and then we argue about what we agree upon :eek: .Isn't that strange?!
hoojchoons:
Just to try and correct some things more. My apologies go to all of you guys here at the forums if I insulted anyone and first of all Calum, as I already mentioned previously, to whom I answered very sarcastically. It's just that sometimes one doesn't seem to read behind the words. That's what happened to me as well. So Calum, since you're one of the moderators feel free to close this topic at my own request since I'm really ashamed of most of the things I wrote. Thanks again and sorry for what I said :(
Calum:
oh pish and tosh, life is too short for heartfelt disagreements and there's really no need for an apology. Welcome back on board anyway! :D
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