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Crunchy(Cracked)Butter:
Wonderful, just wonderful i feel sorry for the US already.    

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/27636.html

"Red Hat has struck a small blow against the DMCA, by publishing a security patch which can only be explained fully to people who are not within US jurisdiction. The company's position here seems to be not altogether voluntary - according to a spokesman "it is bizarre, and unfortunately something Red Hat cannot easily do much about," but like it or not Red Hat has been recruited to the campaign to make the DMCA look ridiculous."

[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter ]

Calum:
why'd you start this topic? this site is hosted in california which means that, while i now know all about it, nothing can be legally posted about it on this site.

i always wondered about all that shit about not using certain software outside the US. 'who do they think they are?' i once asked myself as i installed a telnet client on my work macintosh, which quite baldly stated that it was free for US citizens to use, but illegal for anybody else...

Crunchy(Cracked)Butter:
I posted this because i wanted to show how the DMCA is effecting people in the US or US territories.  Granted nothing can be said about it but thats the point?  Its kinda annoying isn't it, which i bet all people involved will be feeling as well.

Calum:
i can go and say what i like about it on UK linux sites such as newtolinux.org.uk and yourlinux.co.uk/forums since they are hosted in the UK, and i am in england...

maybe you yanks should go and read those boards, if i were to, for instance post there (and i didn't mean that about the yanks, i realise that canada is part of north america too though...)

There's a thought. If you go to newtolinux.org.uk and post this, are you breaking the law? the site is english, and so are many of its posters (and most of the rest are canadian), so what's the legality there? surely they cannot make it illegal for people in a particular continent to just KNOW something, if they got it from an offshore source? if so, then all the people who made it illegal to know about it would be breaking the law!!!

DC:

quote:Originally posted by Calum:
i can go and say what i like about it on UK linux sites such as newtolinux.org.uk and yourlinux.co.uk/forums since they are hosted in the UK, and i am in england...

maybe you yanks should go and read those boards, if i were to, for instance post there (and i didn't mean that about the yanks, i realise that canada is part of north america too though...)

There's a thought. If you go to newtolinux.org.uk and post this, are you breaking the law? the site is english, and so are many of its posters (and most of the rest are canadian), so what's the legality there? surely they cannot make it illegal for people in a particular continent to just KNOW something, if they got it from an offshore source? if so, then all the people who made it illegal to know about it would be breaking the law!!!
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It is illegal to publish stuff like that in the US. This includes via the net, even when on a foreign page by foreign citizens aimed at foreigners. According to the warped view of the US governement that is.
So, if I put info on my page on how to hack, which is AFAIK (but IANAL) perfectly legal here, I may be arrested for doing so unless I somehow restrict US citizens from reading it.

So no, posting on UK boards will not protect you, just read the article for examples.

And yes, those who are making it illegal are pretty much breaking every constitution on the western hemisphere (free speech and stuff). They're US congress though. Try and do a damned thing about it.

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