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Master of Reality:
i wanna switch from iptables to ipchains (for now) but i cant get iptables removed. I need to remove all the modules associated with iptable_netfilter to do this (?).
When i do 'lsmod'
it lists:

--- Code: ---
--- End code ---
I removed the others (rmmod ipt_state ipt_log (etc.))
But i cant remove any of these last four modules with rmmod because each of them says its busy because they are all dependant on eachother. Is there some way to force them to remove?

voidmain:
No, you don't want to force them.  You need to stop what is using them.  Probably "flush" the chains.

Master of Reality:
i flushed them several times and deleted any usr made chains:
iptables -F
iptables -X

voidmain:
Why didn't you just do a:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables stop

Master of Reality:
see, they dont tell you blatantly obvious things like that in manuals.

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