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I'm sick and tired of these "linux is ugly" comments

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slave:
I set up vnc on X yesterday and it's pretty cool.  I can log into my b0x from any location.  xfree86 4.3 will also come with several new features like the resize and render extension.

Pantso:
Preacher, noone is starting a mac vs linux war. That would be way too childish and really pointless. We all know that OS X is not free of course but it is equally stable and secure as Linux is. Yes, I like OS X, yes I like it more than Linux in many areas, but that's just me. I could as easily as you put a little statement of mine on my sig like "OS X is the best UNIX based OS and not Linux", but that would be stupid on my part since I've used and I'm using both OSes. On the contrary, I don't think you've ever used OS X, or you haven't mentioned it so far, hence you can't be jumping into conclusions which are based in pure assumptions!

As for X11, it is REALLY powerful like Linux user pointed out but needs a lot of improvement and more intense work on behalf of those who are into the project. Again, my opinion. So far unfortunately, you can only get commercial X servers as an alternative to X11.

DC:
About X11 (the program): it does have some rather nasty qualities, but it allows for beautifull stuff. I can (and have) run programs from the school servers on my home PC through ssh and X tunneling. Graphical programs, that is. I'd like to see one of my not-yet-converted classmates do that (don't worry, they'll be converted - the amount of frequent Windows users under the senior students is rather small).

Besides, X - or rather, a window manager on top of X - can be made as beautifull (or ugly) as you want to. Pretty easy too, if you don't want all to odd stuff. I use Mosfet's Liquid (mentioned above) and it's the most beautiful GUI I have ever seen.

However, there is one thing wrong. As others stated (in other words), themes are usually applied to a single widget styles, and the windows itself. So KDE apps, who use QT, blend perfectly with Liquid. Mozilla, using the GTK widget, has the same title bar, but plain, square, grey buttons. I do not mind that much, but I understand that some may see this as ugly. Also, there is as far as I know no easy way to solve this (it is probably possible, but it'll be development hell, with all different licenses and stuff thrown in for good measure).
Developing a whole new windowing system *may* look like a good idea, but it'll break compatibility. What if not everyone accepts the new standard? What do we do with the ability to run graphical apps on different screens - useless for mose home users, but incredibly usefull for others. How will people connect with X11 boxes (remember, having backwards compatibility is impossible, since it will break the whole "new system" thing and will be cruftingly slow)? That is one of the strengths of X and Unix.

X has a lot of problems, but all things considered it is a good system.

slave:
Yeah, X11 has had "remote desktop" long before XPee Professional.

billy_gates:

quote:Originally posted by ThePreacher:


Are you trying to start a mac vs. linux war? Ive got three words for you too in concern to linux.

Free
Secure
Stable

Beat that!!!!
--- End quote ---


I really don't want to start a stupid Mac vs Linux war.  However...

Secure
Stable
Easy


I didn't add pretty because I think you previsouly mentioned that you didn't like Aqua.


I think this topic should end here.  We are not going anywhere but down with this post.

[ February 11, 2003: Message edited by: Billy Gates: Mac Comrade Captain ]

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