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Lennon:
Lets go, all over again. Please read carefully.

Thanks ehm, but this is too fucked up.
I'm running Mandrake 9.1 just so you know.
Firstly - when i go to Configure > Packaging, theres no file, find package or anything, wherever i go. Theres just:
-Install Software
-Mandrake Update
-Remove Software
-Software Source Manager
And none of these contain "Finding" files.
Now i installed linuxvideostudio-0.1.7-1src.rpm in hoping i would play some DivXs and it all seemed fine, but theres NOTHING in my /bin or any other directories. I tried the normal find files, nothing.
I also tried typing all sorts of commands in the Terminals > Konsole but nothing.
I'm not even sure the damn program IS for mandrake. How am i supposed to know that, is there any difference? Maybe its a plug in, theres no documentation with it, nothing to give me even a hint!

Ok now about the compiling.
i got two programs for video display. one of which is xmps-0.2.0 which i unpacked to /tmp and tried doing ./configure. During configure it gave me the usual checks and i once saw "command not found" if it matters but in the end it says

XMPS build configuration:
  - Build GNOME gui: yes

Does it mean i cant run it unde KDE?
When i run make install and make, i get all sorts of "parse error before '*' token" and " 'name' undeclared (first use in this function) " and error 1... make has 2 errors.  

Now i tried ./configure with kmplayer and it says "Good - your configure finished. Start make now" but once i type make install it says "mkdir: cannot create directory ... Permission Denied" so i tried typing login, and then root and then password, but that didn't work. Then i tried logging out and i shut down my whole Linux system so here i am typing the whole post once again...  :(  now i hope someone answers because i gave up. I'll need a few days to regain strength to go on with this...

when i type login i get "login:" i type "root" i get "Password:" and cant type anything. I press enter, then i type the password, and it says its wrong.
And the You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh" message is very annoying too...

Another bitching:
And now because i am typing this in a text file, i have to wait a few minutes to connect to the net because this strange network program will not use the full capabilities of my ISDN so i have to wait 20 seconds each time my ISP rejects me, where in windows i wait 1 second... any better internet connection programs out there??? No i quit, i'll have to connect from windows... here i am posting from win98.

P.S.
Please answer, im out of ideas how to run anything on here... so please before i loose it  :(
Took me 40 minutes to write this post and i am so agitated i am planning to sell my computer if things keep going this way. Fuck machines.   :mad:

Doogee:
Terminal is your friend, always have at least 1 terminal open all the time.

RPMS:

$ su
<root pass>
# rpm -Uhv rpmname.rpm


SOURCE (tar.bz2/gz/others)

$ tar -xzvf (xjvf i think for bz2) tardotgzfile.tar.gz
$ cd tardotgzfile
$ ./configure
$ make
$ su
<root pass>
# make install
# exit
$ tardotgzfile  (this is the name of the program, this is how you execute it)


I hope this helps a bit mate, it will be hard at first, but once oyu get used to it you wont want to let linux go!

Calum:

quote:Originally posted by Lennon:
XMPS build configuration:
  - Build GNOME gui: yes

Does it mean i cant run it unde KDE?
--- End quote ---
no. not in any way. kde stuff and gnome stuff is now so well integrated that you can usually run programs written for one on the other totally transparently. there are still one or two exceptions but you are unlikely ever to meet them.
   
quote:When i run make install and make, i get all sorts of "parse error before '*' token" and " 'name' undeclared (first use in this function) " and error 1... make has 2 errors.        
--- End quote ---
you need to run make before you run make install.  
quote:Now i tried ./configure with kmplayer and it says "Good - your configure finished. Start make now" but once i type make install it says "mkdir: cannot create directory ... Permission Denied" so i tried typing login, and then root and then password, but that didn't work.
--- End quote ---

ok, first of all, you have to run make install as root. to do this, type "su -", the 'su' makes you root and the '-' tells the system to load root's configuration stuff. then you need to type in the root password. you'll find this a lot less messy than trying to run another login session. type "man su" to find out more about 'su', eg you can use it to become other users as well as just root.

do check after you become root that you are still in the same directory you were in before. you can do this by typing "pwd" (which stands for print working directory) at any time to find out where in the directory tree you are.

it's difficult for me to try and help more unless you be more specific than "that didn't work".
   
quote: Then i tried logging out and i shut down my whole Linux system
--- End quote ---
ah... you won't be able to install anything that way...

   
quote:when i type login i get "login:" i type "root" i get "Password:" and cant type anything. I press enter, then i type the password, and it says its wrong.
And the You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh" message is very annoying too...
--- End quote ---
well, as i said above, you shouldn't really be typing 'login' you should be using 'su' instead (it stands for super user by the way, i find it's easier to remember these commands when you know what they mean). i suspect none of these login problems will be there if you use su instead. nonetheless, if i get any errors typing in my root password then i usually change it as soon as possible, just in case. to do this, as root, type "passwd" which will prompt you for a new password, twice. you can do this as any user to change your password, and if you are root, you can do "passwd username" to change the password for that user too.

   
quote:Another bitching:
And now because i am typing this in a text file, i have to wait a few minutes to connect to the net because this strange network program will not use the full capabilities of my ISDN so i have to wait 20 seconds each time my ISP rejects me, where in windows i wait 1 second... any better internet connection programs out there??? No i quit, i'll have to connect from windows... here i am posting from win98.
--- End quote ---
can't help you here, i have never used this type of connection. i have a feeling it might be some settings thing rather than a problem with the actual connection program whatever it is though i could be wrong. somebody who uses this type of connection would be more help.


it took me a while when i was new to it all to successfully install anything from source, basically i suggest you read all the readme files and install text files and stuff before you try to install the program. i know it sounds boring but you get the hang of it. i find it is a good idea to type "./configure --help" before you start too, to see if there are any options you can add to ./configure which you might want (like if i was installing mplayer, there are quite a lot of things i put after ./configure on the same line, to enable features et cetera, if you see what i mean).

also http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/redhat/
in particular the apt-get and fonts ones. they're not directly relevant but they are easy and will probably be something you'll want (especially apt-get for installing stuff) at some time. you are using red hat aren't you?

also there are some basic FAQs that we put together at http://belg88.com/faqman/index.php?op=cat&c=2 which i think will be a great help to you.

edit: maybe this will help you with your isdn issues?
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/s1-network-config-isdn.html

[ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: crusader for peace & freedom ]

Doogee:
oi dont go misleading the boy, su stands for substitute users, go root and type # su (nameofsomeoneelseonyoursystem) and whammo you are them   :D  


I dont like saying it like that, i usually refer to it as switch user.


I know im being picky, but someone told me it was super user, the i went into irc one day and they laughed at me when i said it was super user. Also in one of my b00ks it says substitute users.      

now, to get that word processor going    :rolleyes:

[ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: Doogee : Get Slack ]

Lennon:
Thanks Dooge, thats probably the greatest help i could get, cos i understand the workings just not the logic... i think... I'm posting from windows now, cos i found my ISDN is not working (I get hardware errors all over the place) but on random, it wakes up and i'm able to connect. So that other problem is about my hardware, not Mandrake.

Calum, thanks, your answer was a sorta variation on Dooges     ... it comes in handy. Thanks for the links!! I'll check them out. edit: You should also note i use Mandrake 9.1

Now i'll go try it out and come back when i have other stuff to bitch about.    :cool:

[ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: Lennon ]

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