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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #15 on: 8 October 2002, 01:56 »
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Originally posted by Ice9:
These are fairly good points void main, I guess I'm too much inclined to not see the dark side of people until I get a smack on the head    

Oh well, I like the OS and while I understand your point of view I still see nothing wrong in the commercial attitude SuSE is adopting here.



Don't get me wrong. I have no gripe with SuSe. If people want to purchase their product that's great. It's much, much, much, much better than going out and buying a Microsoft OS. They still promote the use of Linux in general which is a good thing. And the yast license is a completely minor issue. The not having ISOs available is a personal issue and not a big one, just big enough to be one of the reasons I favor another distro.

 
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Sure from an ethical point of view Redhat, Debian and c
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #16 on: 8 October 2002, 02:27 »
Good points again  
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #17 on: 8 October 2002, 02:33 »
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They are?



Damn right they are. You're downloading not-free-software as a free download. So either SuSe decided to pay lots of different companies cash per every download, or you're downloading an illegal download (warez).

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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #18 on: 8 October 2002, 02:50 »
quote:
Originally posted by TheQuirk:


Damn right they are. You're downloading not-free-software as a free download. So either SuSe decided to pay lots of different companies cash per every download, or you're downloading an illegal download (warez).



Looks like www.linuxcd.org resides in France. I don't see how they would have it available for long if they don't have it available for legit. I would think if they changed their policy that www.linuxiso.org would also have it, maybe they will soon?
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #19 on: 8 October 2002, 02:53 »
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Originally posted by TheQuirk:


Damn right they are. You're downloading not-free-software as a free download. So either SuSe decided to pay lots of different companies cash per every download, or you're downloading an illegal download (warez).

[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: TheQuirk ]



Are there any other non-free packages other than StarOffice? I haven't got to the point yet to see if that is included. They could include OpenOffice just as easily in a free ISO download. But I don't want to install it if I will be installing warez. I haven't been able to find anything to this point to prove one way or the other.
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #20 on: 8 October 2002, 04:17 »
Actually SuSE 8.0 came with Starofice 5.2, not 6 and now with the release of 8.1 they have included Openoffice.
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #21 on: 8 October 2002, 04:30 »
You are correct. I noticed the StarOffice 5.2 libraries during the install. I hate 5.2. Good move on the OOo 1.x for the new release, but that brings up the fact that I am not getting the latest release.    Guess things haven't changed unless I can get 8.1 in ISO form. I believe they always have offered the previous release in ISO format. Again, nothing wrong with that.

I just started up a new VMware session, selected the first ISO to act as my CD-ROM drive and started installing SuSe 8.0 in a VMware session. The installation menu is stupid simple (good thing). I looked through all the options and chose to do a default install on my 4GB virtual disk.

Unfortunately a default install also needs the second disk. No problem, I want to get them all anyhow and am downloading the second disk now. The install will be on hold until that point (I could start a fresh minimal install but I'll just wait, no hurry).
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #22 on: 8 October 2002, 10:29 »
Ok, posting this from Konqueror running under SuSe 8.0 which is running under VMware running under RedHat 8.0.    Looks very nice so far (familiar old KDE 3.x). Very polished. Lotsa graphical system tools etc.

How come none of the KDE people got pissed at Suse for changing the default look to a SuSe look like they did with RedHat?  I don't see where RedHat did any more hacking to KDE's looks than SuSe has. Don't know why I mention it because it doesn't bother me in either case.
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #23 on: 8 October 2002, 11:08 »
how do you set the command on 99? I did this. WHats missing?

i typed ncftpget then the addy (ftp bla bla bla). But how do you set it on 99?

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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #24 on: 8 October 2002, 11:13 »
This is how I start an ISO download from the command line:

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This allows up to 99 login failures due to too many users, etc. It also runs ncftp in the background so I don't have to keep the shell open and can log off. Or if I accidentally close the shell the download continues. Plus I can just press the UPARROW and change the 1 to a 2 to get the second ISO, etc.

Of course there are ncftp switches that will kick the download off in the background as well, but the & works just as well.
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #25 on: 8 October 2002, 11:16 »
i should be writing all thid own. THese are freaking cool tricks.

thanks voidman
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #26 on: 8 October 2002, 11:20 »
oh yeah. I can see the program running in the backround. Mucho excellento.
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #27 on: 8 October 2002, 11:20 »
Actually it all becomes second nature after you have been using *NIX a little while (that doesn't mean using the GUI). And the retry option is in the man page (man ncftpget).  
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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #28 on: 8 October 2002, 11:28 »
Another helpful trick if you don't already use it is copy/paste in your terminal window. For instance, right click on a link to a file in a web page an do a "Copy Link Location" (or equivelant depending on browser). Then type "ncftpget" or "wget" and a space, then press both mouse buttons simultaneously in the terminal window and it will paste the link right in there, then just press enter.

I use this a lot when downloading RPMs on remote machines. I might be SSHed into a machine and have a browser on my local machine open. Copy the RPM URL and paste it into my wget command in the remote server. You can copy text from other locations in your terminal just by dragging your left mouse button, then click both buttons to paste it at your cursor location (actually this works in any X apps including KDE and Gnome apps).

Actually you can use tab completion on the command line and save even more typing like instead of typing "wget ", you could just type "wg" followed by TAB, then paste in your URL and press enter. Obviously this example didn't save a lot of keystrokes but every little bit helps.

But you pick up thousands of these little tips. The more you pick up the easier life gets and the more you begin to see the light.

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Dear Void Main....RE:8.0
« Reply #29 on: 8 October 2002, 11:41 »
VoidMan, the more i read your posts the more stupid i feel, in a way that basicaly i dont know jackshit about Linux.
  I go to school and dazle them with what i learn from here and from the RH7.3 book i have, about Linux and  actually some of the people call me "The Linux man".
  I think to my self. You poor bastard i am halfblind but you dont know it.    :D  

 Anywho, i checked on the proccess status and it says that its in a sleep mode.  :(   :confused:  
 I highlighted what you wrote and paste it and hit enter btw.
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